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Offline weaselsan

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« on: April 08, 2005, 07:36:21 PM »
Today, coal appears more and more to be a formidable capital for the world of tomorrow. First of all, because of its huge resources, estimated to be over 1000 billion tonnes, it represents over 80% of fossil energy resources, against less than 20% for petrol and natural gas. Close to 500 billion tonnes are exploitable in current technical and economic conditions.
And secondly, and not least of all, this capital can be happily divided across almost 80 countries. Leading the countries particularly rich in coal are the USA, China and Russia. Behind their enormous reserves other countries appear, such as Australia, Canada and India as well as some Latin American countries such as Colombia. The geographical split combined with this abundance guarantees a sureness of supply and encourages stability or even a lowering of prices.



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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2005, 07:49:14 PM »
Coal is evil!
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2005, 07:52:41 PM »
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Coal is evil!


It sure is...but it burns beautifully:rofl
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Offline Bodhi

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2005, 08:04:03 PM »
Our power plant in Colorado Springs is a coal plant.

We have a huge plume of white vapor coming out of the evaporators and heat exchangers all the time...  

but thats the only plume we see.  State of the art scrubbers, and a hard core attempt to stay clean makes it very viable for us.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2005, 08:13:50 PM »
No, no, no... coal IS evil.

We must not use it, ever.

Nor should we use nuclear power. That is a disaster beyond all proportion.

Why just look at what happened to France. In 2002, France consumed 414.92 BILLION kilowatt hours produced by nuclear power. So, get that out of your heads.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2005, 11:45:22 PM »
Where did they put their waste? You might not want to use France as an example. But, I agree nuclear power is a great resource.

Coal's problem is it's high sulfur content. It can wreak havoc on the environment, long term if emissions are not controlled.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2005, 11:47:57 PM »
too bad you cant turn coal into Oil...
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2005, 12:10:37 AM »
No, but you can grind it up and mix it with just about anything including water and it will burn.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2005, 12:30:12 AM »
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too bad you cant turn coal into Oil...


Yes you can, much of the German military's fuel in WW2 was syntetically derived from coal. I told you coal was evil...
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2005, 12:54:40 AM »
Well if we decide to invade West Virginia then I'm running to Canada!
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2005, 12:57:48 AM »
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Where did they put their waste? You might not want to use France as an example.


I think they just dumped it in the streets of their major cities.

They're all dead now because they use nuke power. Surely you must have heard?

That's why we can't try it... it's killed all the French.

In June 1999, Japan had 52 nuclear reactors in operation with a total electric power generation capacity of 45.08 million ~ kilowatts. That's what killed all of them; it was in the news.

Lithuania produced 80% of their electricity using nuclear power... that's what killed all of them too.
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2005, 02:52:39 AM »
Ukraine gets 51% of it's electricity out of nuclear plants too Toad.
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2005, 03:19:27 AM »
It killed all the French, but we acted just in time - coal was banned!

Well, not really. In the 1950s, air pollution was a major concern - the old pea souper fogs/smogs in London...

So new regulations came into force, and for solid fuel we had to burn a coal based product called Rexco, which was a smokeless fuel.

I'm glad those days are behind us. Apart from the hassle of lighting the fire each morning, there was the disposal of ashes, having a chimney sweep come to clean the chimneys. There would be lots of dust. :(

But then we got natural gas and central heating. :cool: An automatic timer controls everything - heat, hot water - no work, no dust! I love lying in bed on a winter's morning, and at 6am hearing the circulation pump start up, followed shortly thereafter by the "whump" as the gas boiler fires up.

Coal? bah... miners' strike, 3-day week, power cuts, Arthur Scargill.... there - I've done my best to rope Dowding into this thread. :D
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2005, 03:28:51 AM »
Arthur Scargill and his lot of commie coal miners are just another reason why coal is evil....

Go Maggie!
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2005, 03:47:28 AM »
Scargill fought Maggie! Scargill lost. :)
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