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Offline Dago

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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2005, 01:01:40 PM »
Lets not forget the huge amounts of money being spent to block or filter out spam.  ISPs, software manufacturers like MS, etc are spending millions to block this crap.  Many consumers have to spend a lot of money to buy commercial programs to block this crap.  Many times the spam is for x-rated products and websites, which if opened at a persons place of employment can put his very employment at risk.

The methods used to try and trick a person into viewing the spam, or to get around filters and blocks is the most telling sign that even the spammers know their crap is unwanted.  They don't care, they just want to force their spam crap down our throats.

I say, if they will not make it possible to unsubscribe, or do not honor requests to stop spam, then they should be jailed as a result of the costly problem they are causing.

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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2005, 01:12:43 PM »
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9 YEARS???

Thats crazy. what is wrong with people.  You spam and you get 9 years.  You are a Violent Felon  and you get less.


Note that he did also steal AOL's e-mail list, used alot fake email addys, changed router information....

Besides causing alot of expenses which of he didn't have to pay a dime for.
Usually people are expected to pay for the services.
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2005, 01:13:52 PM »
I got an email "misspiss is waiting  for you",i think it was from this guy:D
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2005, 01:16:17 PM »
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TV..you can change the channel...people outside stores..you can just walk by...but when you access your e-mail it's there and you often have to sift through it to find the real e-mail..it's time consuming..bill boards and TV are legit because you can choose to ignore it..not spam..and pop ups and the such.


I had to create folders in my inbox, then sift through all the spam to find emails from friends/family, then create message rules to have those *real* emails go to the folders just so I dont miss the emails I want to see.

I average 1000 spam emails a week in my inbox. At one point I tryed to get myself removed from mailing lists by scrolling down and clicking the *remove me from mail list* links. This only made the problem worse.

I'm glad they sent this social reject to jail for 9 years, this guy was scamming $750,000 a MONTH from people.
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2005, 01:21:14 PM »
jumping for freaking joy.
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2005, 01:23:01 PM »
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I had to create folders in my inbox, then sift through all the spam to find emails from friends/family, then create message rules to have those *real* emails go to the folders just so I dont miss the emails I want to see.

I average 1000 spam emails a week in my inbox. At one point I tryed to get myself removed from mailing lists by scrolling down and clicking the *remove me from mail list* links. This only made the problem worse.

I'm glad they sent this social reject to jail for 9 years, this guy was scamming $750,000 a MONTH from people.


when you click 'remove me" that makes you a "known responder" and they can sell your e-mail addy for more money.
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2005, 05:19:49 PM »
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lol,  yes  Y don't we also put it in the constitution that we don't want TV ads, radio ads,  bill board adds.  Or anything at all that may want to sell you something.  Lets make it our right to shoot a person handing anything out outside of a store because they may bother you...

Y not we are giving  9 years to people. that sent you an email.:rolleyes:


Apples and oranges, to an extent.  TV Ads are what to pays for your free entertainment on network television.  You endured the ads in order to receive the programming.

Now, cable muddies the water up a little bit because you're paying for a service in addition to being hit by advertising.  I guess it's just the price you pay for all the extra channels.

Radio ads.. same thing.  You are subjected  to the ads because they pay the costs necessary for you to listen to your favorite radio station.

In these cases, advertising pays the costs necessary to deliver entertainment to the consumer. If enough folks aren't entertained, people dont advertise and the shows get cancelled.  That is fair and equitable.

Billboards.. well, in places where folks are sick of them, they are being de-zoned and discontinued.  

The really aggravating thing about spammers is that they go to great lengths to disguise their messages to get through e-mail filters.  

Excuse me.. if I have an e-mail filter set up, what makes you think I'm going to suddenly welcome the spam if it gets through?

Quite the contrary.

Spammers represent the lowest form of life.  They are either intentionally trying to annoy me by constantly bombarding me with stuff I don't want, or they are going to these extreme measures just to see if they can beat the system and get their messages through.

Such blatent lack of respect for people is proof that they are not worthy enough to exist in our society.
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2005, 06:03:51 PM »
APDrone,

Don't forget the advertisers pays for the adds in TV, radio, billboards...
...unlike in the spamming cases.
Thats a big difference.

However sending spam is not free for the operator which is used to send large quantities of e-mail.
These millions of e-mails uses huge amount processing power and takes alot of bandwidth too.
Same for the receiving end, especially when it gets to the point where the spam is received and needs to be processed, if the automatic filters haven't been able to do the trick due to methods to bypass the filter.
Plus the filters do also consume processing power from the server.

Spammers sure do cause alot of costs in many places and they only have to pay for their computer and the internet connection.
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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2005, 06:12:24 PM »
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when you click 'remove me" that makes you a "known responder" and they can sell your e-mail addy for more money.


Yeah, I found that out :mad:
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2005, 06:20:23 PM »
Fishu,

Absolutely.  

I 'own' a couple of domains and I get spammed by those trying to subscribe me to spamming services. ( 25 million e-mail addresses )

It's absolutely nuts.  I don't think a constitutional ammendment is necessary.. Just have the FCC sic Carnivore after them.

And give us a no-spam list.

The no-call list has worked like a charm.
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2005, 06:59:47 PM »
I used to get spam. I don't anymore. And, I freely give out my e-mail address anytime its requested.

The secret is two-fold: 1) the ISP that hosts my e-mail address uses an effective spam/virus firewall (Barracuda) 2) what little manages to slip past that gets caught by a resident installation of Mailwasher before I download it (Mailwasher queries your POP3 server to retrieve header information) and deleted from the server.

I abhor spam, support law against it, and like the idea of this butthole getting whacked, but the idea that we have a constitutional right to not be bothered by this is absurd. (But that's another discussion ;))

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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2005, 08:01:14 PM »
""Jeremy Jaynes, 30, is the first person in the US to get a prison term ""

this is what happens when you name your kid "jeremy"
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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2005, 08:56:13 PM »
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Is this the "noodle Enlargement" spam dude...or the "Hello, I'm lonely and my husband is out of town" dude.

Or...one of the "Cheap Canadian Pharmacies"?

Either way...glad he is gone.

My bet is on Nigerian prince
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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2005, 08:59:00 PM »
Heya Dago

The avatard is just something I found funny, and it's my way of poking a little fun at those who take their avatards too seriously.

Not much else going on.  I had to unplug my joystick to run the GTR demo, but it installed that starforce cdrom/dvd device driver thingy and flat-out killed my cdr/rw drive (I think) plus taxes suck so pretty much I've been limited to reading the BBS a few minutes a day.

Work sucks too.  Busy busy.  I've started getting taskers and calls/emails from some higher-ups on the weekend too.  I can't complain 'cause it's good visibility and may help me in the future, but it just takes up a lot of time that's all.
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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2005, 09:12:22 PM »
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Heya Dago

The avatard is just something I found funny, and it's my way of poking a little fun at those who take their avatards too seriously.



Yeah, as you can tell, I put months of thought and work into my avatar, it must represent me and everything about me to the world.  :D

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