Author Topic: Questions to americans (Read 798 times)

Raven_2 · « **on:** April 12, 2005, 08:48:22 PM »

Is it true that ~7.000 citizens in Virginia were forcefully sterelized, until 1979?

Swager · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2005, 09:02:16 PM »

I think it was West Virgina! Or it should of been!

Lizking · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2005, 09:04:51 PM »

So far as I know, no one was sterelized. They may have been sterilized, though.

Raven_2 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2005, 09:08:22 PM »

Mmmm. Is this not a violation of human rights?

RedTop · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2005, 09:14:23 PM »

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Mmmm. Is this not a violation of human rights?

Call the ACLU. They'll be able to give you the answer I am SURE you want. Why are you worried about it anyway?

Wolfala · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2005, 09:20:40 PM »

Pretty sure they were citizens of the prision system and in prision for sex crimes. But citizens none the less - i'd rather have their balls off then on, given those facts.

Raven_2 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 12, 2005, 09:33:29 PM »

Well, too many americans blame communistic regimes (mainly USSR) for human right violation. But remain blind to similiar things in your own country.

I don`t want to became another anti-american *******, just wonder: is this a double standarts or your TV/newspapers are lie to you that much? Cause eugenics is... well... a bit antihuman, I think.

More about sterilization:

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Also in the Nando Times today is an interesting article about eugenics in America. Many think this pseudoscience originated with the Nazis. Not so.

By the 1930s, nearly two-thirds of the states had eugenics laws, but no states applied them as ardently as Virginia, California and North Carolina. California sterilized more than 20,000 people, the most in the nation. Virginia sterilized 7,450 and North Carolina sterilized nearly 6,300.

The 1924 Virginia Statute for Eugenical Sterilization required sexual sterilization of the "insane, idiotic, imbecile, feebleminded or epileptic" in the belief they would produce similarly disabled offspring.

You might think that such a law violated the 14th Amendment's guarantee of equal protection under the law, but you would be wrong. The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the law on May 2, 1927, in an 8-1 ruling written by Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, who said:

It is better for all the world if, instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind.

In case you are wondering, Indiana enacted the nation's first sterilization law in 1907, and Connecticut followed soon afterward. Biologist Harry H. Laughlin wrote the law on which the Virginia eugenics statute was based. Hitler's 1933 Law for the Prevention of Offspring with Hereditary Diseases sounds like the Virginia statute. In 1936, Laughlin received an honorary medical degree from the University of Heidelberg for his contributions to the "science of race cleansing." Laughlin was one of the founders of the Pioneer Fund, dedicated to such things as improving the character of the American people by encouraging the procreation of descendants of white persons. The Fund is still around and was a major supporter of Murray and Herrnstein's Bell Curve.

And one more: http://www.saponitown.com/eugenics-carrie-buck/eugenics-carrie-buck.htm

Masherbrum · « **Reply #7 on:** April 12, 2005, 09:50:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Raven_2
Well, too many americans blame communistic regimes (mainly USSR) for human right violation. But remain blind to similiar things in your own country.

I don`t want to became another anti-american *******, just wonder: is this a double standarts or your TV/newspapers are lie to you that much? Cause eugenics is... well... a bit antihuman, I think.

More about sterilization:

And one more: http://www.saponitown.com/eugenics-carrie-buck/eugenics-carrie-buck.htm

Let me guess, the country you are from is safe from "Hypocrasy"?

Raven_2 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 12, 2005, 10:00:08 PM »

>>Let me guess, the country you are from is safe from "Hypocrasy"?

What is a "hipocrasy"?

Lizking · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2005, 10:15:23 PM »

It is similar to "sterelized".

Raven_2 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2005, 10:26:53 PM »

>>Let me guess, the country you are from is safe from "Hypocrasy"?

Well, never heard about sterelization in Russia. Not by force, nor by someone will.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 12, 2005, 10:52:07 PM »

Is this boroda?

Isnt killing millions of citizens of the USSR and or all the little nations they had to put down uprisings in kinda like sterelizing?

well not really, far far worse.

if the US did this its bad, but overall our history is a hell of a lot cleaner then comunist russia.

ygsmilo · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2005, 11:04:53 PM »

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Well, never heard about sterelization in Russia. Not by force, nor by someone will.

In Russia, it usually involved a 7.62 to the back of the head.

NUKE · « **Reply #13 on:** April 12, 2005, 11:07:33 PM »

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Right,
Native americans,slaves,iraq........
BTW,you'd be speaking german if it weren't for "comunist russia".

LOL! Sad that people are so dumb.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 12, 2005, 11:08:38 PM »

ATA
Your saying the US is as bad as the USSR?

Sure the way we treated the indians was bad, but they were not 100% inocent themselves.

The US is not the only nation that used slaves.

Comparing the things the Russians did to its own people to Iraq is idiotic.

Our history has its dark spots, but not like the USSR, Hitlers Germany or Comunist China.