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Offline bustr

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« on: April 13, 2005, 01:32:49 PM »
Aliens hide from patrols in canyons
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published April 12, 2005


SIERRA VISTA, Arizona -- Several hundred illegal aliens are holed up in the canyons of the Coronado National Memorial here, six miles north of the U.S.-Mexico border, unable to meet up with smugglers because of ongoing patrols by Minuteman Project volunteers.
     
    Cindy Kolb, who has lived in the area for the past six years, yesterday told The Washington Times that she saw about 300 aliens "huddled in the brush" near her home, waiting to come down the wide, brush-covered washes that cross State Highway 92 to be picked up in vans and trucks headed north.
     
    "They're hiding in the bushes, waiting to hook up with the smugglers in the very same area that our children wait for the school bus," said Mrs. Kolb, who waits with her daughter daily, armed with a pistol holstered on her ankle.
     
    "Maybe President Bush doesn't care about this, but many of us do," she said.
     
    Her comments came as the U.S. Border Patrol rounded up about 30 illegal aliens, who had been spotted and reported by the Minuteman volunteers, on the shoulder of Highway 92 near her home.
     
    Mrs. Kolb stood on the highway and applauded the agents and the Minuteman volunteers as the aliens were loaded into a Border Patrol truck.
     
    "Thank you, Border Patrol. Thank you, Minuteman volunteers," she shouted across the roadway, jumping with both hands in the air.
     
    The Coronado National Memorial is a favorite corridor for alien and drug smugglers, who bring their cargoes over the mountains -- some ranging as high as 9,400 feet high -- from Mexico and down the canyons and washes on the west side to make connections with northbound vehicles.
     
    Law-enforcement authorities said many of the drug smugglers also have been stopped by the Minuteman volunteers, who have set up observation posts all along Highway 92 -- focusing on the numerous deep washes and concrete culverts that cross the four-lane road.
     
    One member of a civilian reconnaissance patrol team, who asked not to be identified, said that during a patrol in the Coronado mountains this week, he saw some drug smugglers bury their loads, waiting for the Minutemen's departure, scheduled for April 30.
     
    He said the drug smugglers had placed spotters in the mountains, armed with two-way radios to report on the Minuteman patrols. He also said the smugglers were trying to jam radio frequencies used by the Minuteman volunteers to contact each other and the Border Patrol.
     
    "There's no doubt that they're waiting out the Minutemen," he said.
     
    Border Patrol officials here did not return calls yesterday for comment.
     
    Chris Simcox, a Tombstone newspaper publisher and founder of the Civil Homeland Defense organization in Arizona, said, "One of the reasons we targeted that area was because of the numerous complaints from homeowners that illegal aliens were overrunning their property.
     
    "Since our patrols began, we have received numerous letters, e-mails and personal comments from the residents, thanking us for being in the area," he said.
     
    Mr. Simcox said the alien smugglers "have to be under a lot of pressure" to move the migrants out of the canyons, because of a limited supply of food and water.
     
    "I would expect to see large numbers of aliens being moved out of the canyons under the cover of darkness over the next several days," he said. "But the Minuteman volunteers will be there to observe and report them to the Border Patrol."
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2005, 02:14:03 PM »
who was it that said we had no need for a .50 cal sniper rifle?

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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2005, 02:44:44 PM »
Airstrikes and Howitzers!  :D
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2005, 03:03:08 PM »
Napalm is really effective in canyons.  Not much to clean up afterwards and no unexploded ord to find either.

edit - And yes, some of my ancestors were immigrants.  They stood in line and filled out the paperwork, and called themselves Americans afterwards.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2005, 03:24:14 PM »
I'm glad the Minutemen are having success. Maybe we need more groups like them in the other border states.

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He also said the smugglers were trying to jam radio frequencies used by the Minuteman volunteers to contact each other and the Border Patrol.


The volunteers need to be using multiple channel radios so they can switch frequencies at will. Btw, if the smugglers are using the jammers on the US side of the border could the FCC proscecute them?
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2005, 03:30:28 PM »
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 Btw, if the smugglers are using the jammers on the US side of the border could the FCC proscecute them?


only if they transmit dirty stuff.
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you people are so bloodthirsty, i was thinking of shooting the engine block on the transport trucks.

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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2005, 03:47:32 PM »
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only if they transmit dirty stuff.
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you people are so bloodthirsty, i was thinking of shooting the engine block on the transport trucks.



There is no law about jamming radio frequencies? So I could buy a jammer and use it at will w/o fear of retribution from the FCC?
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2005, 04:08:43 PM »
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Napalm is really effective in canyons.  Not much to clean up afterwards and no unexploded ord to find either.

edit - And yes, some of my ancestors were immigrants.  They stood in line and filled out the paperwork, and called themselves Americans afterwards.


Mine too.

I bet more then a few of your, as mine did even learned how to speak english without a goverment program.

Hell I bet many of them. like mine made their own way in this country without ANY kind of goverment program.

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2005, 04:10:00 PM »
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There is no law about jamming radio frequencies? So I could buy a jammer and use it at will w/o fear of retribution from the FCC?


I would imagine there is.
I know I heard a report on the news a while back that jamming Cell phones was illegal.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2005, 04:18:26 PM »
You're fine, as long as your jamming signal doesn't look like a boob on a waveform analyzer.
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2005, 04:32:58 PM »
Actually, using jammers to interfere with the Minute Men's communication via radios IS illegal.

The operation of transmitters designed to jam or block wireless communications is a violation of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"). See 47 U.S.C. Sections 301, 302a, 333. The Act prohibits any person from willfully or maliciously interfering with the radio communications of any station licensed or authorized under the Act or operated by the U.S. government. 47 U.S.C. Section 333. The manufacture, importation, sale or offer for sale, including advertising, of devices designed to block or jam wireless transmissions is prohibited. 47 U.S.C. Section 302a(b). Parties in violation of these provisions may be subject to the penalties set out in 47 U.S.C. Sections 501-510. Fines for a first offense can range as high as $11,000 for each violation or imprisonment for up to one year, and the device used may also be seized and forfeited to the U.S. government.

http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ce...ingjamming.html

Unless I am reading that all wrong, it would appear to apply to all wireless communications.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2005, 04:47:06 PM »
Well, I'm not certain, but I suspect there's something in the law regarding smuggling people and/or drugs into the country too.

Translation: Moot point.
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2005, 04:54:26 PM »
Not a moot point imo, just another charge to tack on.
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