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Offline Holden McGroin

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« on: April 13, 2005, 05:03:28 PM »
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Amateurs Want to Play for Stanley Cup

TORONTO - A group of amateur hockey players is taking the NHL to court to determine whether somebody can play for the Stanley Cup.

The 'Wednesday Nighters' filed a claim in Ontario Superior Court on Wednesday asking it to clarify the terms under which Canadian Governor-General Lord Stanley donated the Cup in 1892. The NHL season was canceled in February amid a labor dispute.

"The fact that the NHL has suspended its play this year doesn't mean that Canadians and others don't have the right to compete for the Stanley Cup," said Tim Gilbert, the groups' lawyer.

Gilbert said Lord Stanley's intention when he donated the Stanley Cup was to have teams compete for the trophy every year, and a labor dispute shouldn't prevent that from happening.

He hopes the court will force Stanley Cup trustees Brian O'Neill and Ian Morrison to find teams to compete for the Cup.


Get your skates sharp, get your buddies together and you could compete for the Stanley Cup.
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2005, 05:27:08 PM »
In 1969, the bowl on top was replaced. While I agree with your sentiment, it's not the cup that Stanley donated. This cup belongs to the NHL.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2005, 07:12:15 PM »
In 1893, Lord Stanley gave Canada the Stanley Cup.

He originally donated the trophy as an award for Canada's top-ranking amateur hockey club. Then in 1926, the National Hockey League adopted the Stanley Cup as the championship prize in professional hockey.

Depends on the minutia of the law in 1926 when the NHL adopted it.  The amateurs may have a case.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2005, 08:15:36 PM »
They had ice skates back in 1893? and ice rinks? And cups?
Wow.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2005, 09:01:38 PM »
They should give it to somebody..The NHL is dead.
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2005, 11:04:20 PM »
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In 1893, Lord Stanley gave Canada the Stanley Cup.


Yes.. yes... and in 1969, the NHL replaced it with a duplicate. It's not the same cup.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2005, 02:23:26 AM »
Better watch out the Canadians are upset over a giant beer mug. Give them their cup back (if we even have the original). Design a new trophy and let the Canadians play hockey at home by themselves and with themselves.  

Amazing how something as simple as a freaking trophy throws people into a frenzy. If the players in these leagues weren't so freaking selfish then maybe there wouldn't be any lockouts.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2005, 02:37:29 AM »
"let the Canadians play ..............at home by themselves and with themselves."

Bit like we let you yankee guys do with Grid Iron?

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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2005, 03:03:31 AM »
So what country are you from Skydancer? If your referring to the World League of American Football I'd say definately. Some of the players from the US who can't hack the NFL go to there.

Hell I played football in England and even guys from our base team were not only allowed tryouts for the Scottish Claymores but some were even told to come back when their military obligation was over. I even played against some ex London Monarchs from the World League of American Football. They were at best community college players.

The majority of the teams we played in England were high school level athletes at best. The team we brought to the table was a rag tag bunch of ex high school players and a few college players. Even with these odds the English teams still couldn't score against us let alone drive past the 50 yard line. We atleast knew their punter was well trained unlike the rest of the crew. :lol

What's even better is their league wouldn't allow more than 7 Americans on one of their teams and you couldn't have more than 3 Americans on the field at any one time. Hell teams paid or offered our players money just to play for them and the team would pay any expenses for travel and lodging.

Guess we should keep it to ourselves and leave the rest to the monkeys.
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2005, 04:33:53 AM »
Im in UK.

Football is a game played with the feet the whole world over. hence the name football.

what yopu guys and a few enthusiasts over here play is not football! Its a grid iron game, involving tactics yes physical force yes but very little action of the foot to ball kind!

The World Cup s a truly global competition.

The World league of american football is well not realy a very global competition is it?

Its an American game. entertaining for sure, interesting, maybe but a bit slow. But it aint a global sport.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2005, 06:06:46 AM »
I have a good laugh when the Americans call something a World Championship even though they are the only competitors. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2005, 06:13:12 AM »
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I have a good laugh when the Americans call something a World Championship even though they are the only competitors. :rolleyes:


Because all the competitors in that league happen to be in the US...We have Canadian teams in Major League Baseball(A joke of a sport but a sport none the less) So at least that one is international...Maybe whereever you are from you should get an prettythangload of money together enough for TWO teams and petition the NFL or NBA or MLB to expand to your country.
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2005, 08:14:35 AM »
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I have a good laugh when the Americans call something a World Championship even though they are the only competitors. :rolleyes:


Might as well.
The things we call  a "World Championship" it is very highly unlikely anyone in the world would beat us at anyway.

What common professional sports do you have that can beat ours?
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2005, 08:50:06 AM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
In 1893, Lord Stanley gave Canada the Stanley Cup.

He originally donated the trophy as an award for Canada's top-ranking amateur hockey club. Then in 1926, the National Hockey League adopted the Stanley Cup as the championship prize in professional hockey.

Depends on the minutia of the law in 1926 when the NHL adopted it.  The amateurs may have a case.



The Stanley Cup is owned by a board of trustees, the have lent it to the NHL under contract, it could be argued that the NHL has broken the contract by not having a season, and so ownership should return to the trustees.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2005, 09:52:10 AM »
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I have a good laugh when the Americans call something a World Championship even though they are the only competitors. :rolleyes:


Milo, I guess you haven't looked at very many NHL or NBA rosters lately, huh? These leagues attract the best talent from around the world- sheeesh, the Dallas Mavericks had guys from 5 different nations on thier 12 man roster last year- and your typical NHL roster is full of Europeans.
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