Made some nice new acquaintances

[Edbert1]

Originally posted by mechanic
must be amazing to meet pilots who flew and survived in the last great war our world will see.

Particularly the ones who flew Brewsters!


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[TrueKill]

yea i want a Fw109 they went mach3 and can turn inside a hoverround and had a 6  barreled 30mm gatlin gun.

[Edbert1]

Originally posted by TexMurphy
Just an idea.

Why dont you ask them if anyone wants to test fly our Me109s and if they can comment on how they handle compared to the real thing.

Would be really cool to have a real WW2 vet test fly the rides we fly.
 

Tex,

During the conventions we usually have WWII flying vets give lectures, I got to meet the guy who sank the Yamato at one AH con. Anyhow, we invariably invite them into the con room after the lecture and give them some "stick time". Their opinions of the sim are quite varied to be honest.

[Panzzer]

Originally posted by TexMurphy
Just an idea.

Why dont you ask them if anyone wants to test fly our Me109s and if they can comment on how they handle compared to the real thing.

Would be really cool to have a real WW2 vet test fly the rides we fly.

It's been done with Warbirds and IL2FB.

Mr. Pakarinen testing Forgotten Battles (he tried both the Brewster and the Messerschmitt 109).

[FiLtH]

Thats really cool seeing him sit there. What was his opinion?

[LTARokit]

Originally posted by jaxxo
are we so infatuated with aviation that we forget these guys were nazis?

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Jaxxo your vast knowledge on Nazisism is quite unremarkable.  It's guys like you that cause wars with your single minded, narrow minded veiws.  Before opening your mouth on a subject you obviously know nothing about try picking up a book and reading it, instead of using  it for a door stop.  But then that would mean you need to be able to read.......opps  sorry.  

A big Salute to the Vet Pilots

[TexMurphy]

Originally posted by jaxxo
are we so infatuated with aviation that we forget these guys were nazis?

I guess someone missed his brain installation appointment.

Your arrogance disgusts me, you just insulted an entire nation.

Tex

[LTARokit]

Sorry Grendel for dirtying your outstanding thread by responding to Jaxxo(ff)'s statement.

[mora]

Originally posted by FiLtH
Thats really cool seeing him sit there. What was his opinion?

Scroll down the page to "Erkki Pakarinen, Brewster & Me 109 pilot test flying IL2: Forgotten Battles' Brewster ".

[Grendel]

Originally posted by LTARokit
Sorry Grendel for dirtying your outstanding thread by responding to Jaxxo(ff)'s statement.

Nah, there's always the ultra melon who tries to drag down any sensible thing to his level.

Besides, how could they be nazis since there was no NSDAP party in Finland anyway ;-)

But maybe flying American, French, British and Italian planes makes one automatically a Nazy by Jaxxo's standards ;-) Oh, and throw in a German built plane too

[Howitzer]

Originally posted by jaxxo
are we so infatuated with aviation that we forget these guys were nazis?

War is over Jax... been that way for a long time.  You notice they take German and Japanese accounts of the war on the History Channel all the time.

Also, just because they served in the German military doesn't mean they fully believed and were members of the nazi party.   Many of the German soldiers didn't have much of a choice about going to war, and also there were many that did not align with the nazi political agenda.

These guys are a great source of history and put their lives at risk when they had to just like everyone else in WWII.

[Howitzer]

Originally posted by Grendel
Sometimes you simply hit the jackpot.
I did on Tuesday. There I go to help a local veteran (Brewster, Me 109 pilot) with his lecture, we travel to another town and stop for a coffee - and ding, we are not alone.



"Hessu" Ylönen, LLv28, LLv24, Morane Saulnier 406 / Messerschmitt 109 pilot
Erkki Pakarinen, LLv24, Brewster / Messerschmitt 109 pilot
Osmo Länsivaara, LLv26, LLv 34, Fiat G.50 / Hurricane / Messerschmitt 109 pilot
Eero Raesma, LLv 28, Morane Saulnier 406 pilot, not sure if he served elsewhere too

Spent nice evening with the chaps, heard some interesting stuff, did a good lecture with mr. Pakarinen to a large audience and all the "new" chaps I didn't know before agreed that I may come to visit them to make interviews.

That was a Tuesday well spent.

Read more:
http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/

Okee, is it just me, or is the guy the farthest on the left seem preoccupied looking at something?  There wasn't a pretty young secretary in the room that day or something was there?  

[jaxxo]

My bad, i didnt read close enough. I didnt see we were talking about finnish pilots. A simple "read closer idiot" would have sufficed  I would like to thank you all for telling me how i feel about the entire war... and the ensuing slander. I made an honest mistake and you jumped me like a pack of dogs on a 3 legged cat. SOme of your responses i deserved for being stupid, but a few were way overboard...edited ...

[jaxxo]

Ok after reading the thread again its seems some of you are as confused as I am.Enlighten me please so I dont put my foot in my mouth again.They are fins who flew 109's for the german's correct? I like my history so any web links i would appreciate. I apologize for the stupidity on my part.

[2stony]

That must have been a great time to actually hear it from the people that were there. I've met countless American Fighter Aces and a couple of German aces, but none form any other countries. The war in Finland doesn't get much press, so it's good to see someone interact with them. Did they talk about their experiences a lot or were they hesitant?