Author Topic: No tracers option - discussion (Read 1649 times)

scott123 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 24, 2005, 01:49:29 PM »

Hey!What about no bullets!!!!

mechanic · « **Reply #31 on:** April 24, 2005, 01:55:01 PM »

when did I ever say i didnt spend time to help people?

i have helped anyone who needed it, and been helped by many others.

Ren, you study me from a perspective quite jaded , and i fear i have nea a hope to redeam myself in your eyes. sod off.

mechanic · « **Reply #32 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:00:10 PM »

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Originally posted by DamnedRen
Awwwww.

Is the little boy getting all upset at Ren........blah blah

Noob's listen to everything anyone, who's been here longer than they have, says.

Ren

sweet.

ok all you guys, you must listen to me, i've been here longer than you so listen up!

Ren, is a nice guy but has this morale crusade to attack anyone who doesnt treat you like school girls learning net ball.

he will teach you alot of things but he wont make you a combat pilot. you must earn your wings alone, in the field of conflict.

its hard but you'll get it when you really want it enough. and then you will start learning from the bottom of a very tall ladder.

have fun and dont HO.

bat

DamnedRen · « **Reply #33 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:02:51 PM »

Naw, no bullets.

It's just the typical wise remarks that dudes just gotta say that, in their small minds, they think they look tough and kewl. They don't understand to most people they're showing they don't about anything but themselves. What's the real pity is they actually think we care.

But....when they start telling noob's they aint smart enough to make it and probably wont be around much longer then just what are they doing to enhance the game? And I'll be Damned if i don't make sure the noob understands that type is in the minority and not worth listening to and they can actually get help from most of the people who fly here.

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Ren
The Damned

mechanic · « **Reply #34 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:09:46 PM »

your accusations flow like a stream from a high mountain....fast and flurried, many directions at once, yet powerless. nothing more than a dribble.

and i have yet to accuse you of one thing but your crusade on this board. a crusade i have inadvertantly become a target for.

you have no knoledge of how my life has been written, no matter how long or short. cast your aspersions elsewhere.

i too was once like you with my assumptions and arguments, but i have tried to stop making them on personal matters in recent years as they only make one person look a fool.

i still slip up sometimes, but i have not today

DipStick · « **Reply #35 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:12:08 PM »

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Originally posted by DamnedRen
I'll be Damned

You are and you should start acting like it. The Damned have always been respected by me and others since way back in AW4W.

You are single handedly changing that perception in a short period of time. I only hope Lugs or one of the old guys gets you voted out before you drag the whole squad down.

Lawyer....

While I'm not a big fan of lawyers, you wouldn't make a good pimple on a real lawyers butt.

SuperDud · « **Reply #36 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:18:08 PM »

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Originally posted by DamnedRen
. It's just the typical wise remarks that dudes just gotta say that, in their small minds, they think they look tough and kewl. They don't understand to most people they're showing they don't about anything but themselves. What's the real pity is they actually think we care. >

Unlike most...I AM tough and kewl:p

mechanic · « **Reply #37 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:22:21 PM »

he is, i saw his weiner in the shower, it was big sausage dud!

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #38 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:24:24 PM »

A noob with a veteran on his six has much bigger problems than anything involving tracers...

Plus one of the first things a noob should learn is that it isnt tracers that tell whether the enemy can hit you or not at any given time - the real issue is if the enemy has brought his nose up high enough to get a lead firing angle on your plane.

stantond · « **Reply #39 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:26:46 PM »

I think learning to fly with tracers has not helped me with gunnery. Turning them off is a better way to learn what sight picture corresponds to a guns solution. Maybe tracers help if you have never flown a WW2 fighter simulation before.

I have gone between no tracers and tracers and firmly believe that no tracers is a better option. Why?

1. You can see when your bullets hit.

2. You focus on where your plane is relative to the nme's and what the correct sight picture looks like and how much to lead.

3. There is not a 'garden hose' instinct to drag the tracers over the target.

4. You tend to use less ammo because bursts are fired rather than the effect in #3.

5. I think there is less system lag (not net lag, but lag on your machine related to FPS).

6. If you run out of bullets (or had none to begin with), the nme can't tell.

I expect there are those who have good reasons to turn tracers on. I have yet to hear from any of them.

Regards,

Malta

DamnedRen · « **Reply #40 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:28:45 PM »

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Originally posted by mechanic
your accusations flow like a stream from a high mountain....fast and flurried, many directions at once, yet powerless. nothing more than a dribble.

and i have yet to accuse you of one thing but your crusade on this board. a crusade i have inadvertantly become a target for.

you have no knoledge of how my life has been written, no matter how long or short. cast your aspersions elsewhere.

Crusade? It's a crusade to ask you to act like an adult and just answer the question?

Accusations? You made the statements to the noob's. Not I.

You are wrong about my knowledge about you. My knowledge about you grows everytime you type to this thread just as it does about everyone, myself included. Guess what. Everyone bases their opinions one what we say. You, me, everyone who reads and posts in here. Your write your own history everytime you post.

You can lead and help people or you can post wise remarks that only have value to yourself. That's your choice.

My choice is when you pick on noob's, who are just trying to get advice, by telling them they aint gonna make it then I, like you, will voice my opinion.

Ren

DamnedRen · « **Reply #41 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:30:31 PM »

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Originally posted by DipStick
You are and you should start acting like it. The Damned have always been respected by me and others since way back in AW4W.

You are single handedly changing that perception in a short period of time. I only hope Lugs or one of the old guys gets you voted out before you drag the whole squad down.

Lawyer.... While I'm not a big fan of lawyers, you wouldn't make a good pimple on a real lawyers butt.

Dip...can I call you Dip? LOL.

You think way to highly of yourself.

Ren
The Damned

DamnedRen · « **Reply #42 on:** April 24, 2005, 02:40:38 PM »

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Originally posted by stantond
I think learning to fly with tracers has not helped me with gunnery. Turning them off is a better way to learn what sight picture corresponds to a guns solution. Maybe tracers help if you have never flown a WW2 fighter simulation before.

Regards,

Malta

With as many players as there are flying there will be those for and against tracers. Some of the older vets like em on, others don't. If you're up flying around Coach take alook at him in his Tiffie, they're always on. For him he "sees" his shot better and gets lotsa kills.

Tracers on or off....it might be more helpful for a noob to head over to the training arena and use the targeting feature(lead computer sights). They are normally shocked to find out the they're not pulling anywhere near enough lead in most cases. And, they might find when they think they were dead on they actually needed to aim a lil low or high for muzzle velocities.

I think you can turn it on both offline and online (only in the TA) to turn it on you hit control-tab and green +'s will appear. Those are lead computed sights which shows where you need to be aiming to hit the dude.

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Ren
The Damned

stantond · « **Reply #43 on:** April 24, 2005, 03:40:56 PM »

Ren,

This is a little off topic, but do you know of a way to turn the lead computer sights on in offline mode? I want to practice attacking bombers at different speeds and angles (front, below, above, etc) which is not something the TA is set up for. Not that I can't do this by trial and error, but if there is a tool to make it easier I'll use it.

Regards,

Malta

DamnedRen · « **Reply #44 on:** April 24, 2005, 03:56:57 PM »

I thought there was somthing posted about that a while back. I'll check and get back to you.

A secret about hitting buffs is you fire on them and when you see the rounds hit maintain putting rounds into that one spot and they will go down. Just fire til you see the hits then hold it therer for a couple of seconds. Spraying won't cut it.