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Offline Kweassa

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« Reply #60 on: April 26, 2005, 11:51:51 PM »
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I'd rather be able to fly well then shoot well. Consitant good flying will wear down your opponents eventually, so you'll still get the kills. But you'll also have options. Good gunnery isn't going to save you from a higher or faster con. It isn't going to clear your 6. All its going to do is let you cherry-pick and punk, which get old fast.


 The more you maneuver, the more time you are taking to shoot someone down, which in turn, the more it exposes you to dangers from other aircraft.

 Typically, you can expect a spectacular fight against ONE enemy plane and probably shoot him down, and then get cornered by about 3~4 enemies and get shot down.. (and optionally, you can start ranting on ch.200; "LOL gangbangers" or "It only took five of you" stuff :D ).

 Even spectacular pilots like Levi can't survive 5 vs 1 odds. One way or another people start to depend less on ACM and more about conditioning the overall situation so they always have a clear chance to shoot, and a clear path to bugger out of harms way when they miss.

 Ofcourse, when pure 1vs1 dueling conditions emerge, I'm ready to accept that in such cases ACM might become a lot more important than it really is worth in multiple engagement conditions.

Offline JB73

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« Reply #61 on: April 27, 2005, 12:20:40 AM »
i wish i could film and post every sortie of mine in the MA


you'd truly see whewre in the MA (and the MA only) gunnery is most important. i can fly (and i have been told im not a piss-poor pilot) anyway i can fly my brains out, and spend 3/4 of my cannons on a shot on 1 con, all withing 200 yards, but withough a hit or damage to his plane.

but if i can stay, and keep getting D200 or closer shots aren't i doing "good ACM"????

but i lose the fight becaus i fire, and am bingo, and disnegage, only to get killed by someone else or something.

i can't count how many times in the MA i have taken off, flown, got on a pony's 6 in my dora, and fired off ALL my cannon, only to have the pony D200 in front of me, and i have nothing to kill him with.

gunnery is learned somewhat, but it is truly a trait that if you dont "have it" you never will i believe.
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« Reply #62 on: April 27, 2005, 07:33:18 AM »
I have to disagree to a small detail...

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Even spectacular pilots like Levi can't survive 5 vs 1 odds.

Even spectacular pilots like Levi can't survive 5 vs 1 odds indefinitely.

Watch this film (it is huge)
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Offline Morpheus

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« Reply #63 on: April 27, 2005, 07:40:15 AM »
I killed that link Ed.

It now has a wmv extension but I'm not sure which directory I loaded it in. I will have to check on this.

Sorry

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« Reply #64 on: April 27, 2005, 07:59:45 AM »
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I killed that link Ed.

It now has a wmv extension but I'm not sure which directory I loaded it in. I will have to check on this.

Sorry

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GAH!

It is still listed under your movies category. Let me know if you find it and I'll edit the link.

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« Reply #65 on: April 27, 2005, 08:10:40 AM »
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In a 1 vs 1 duelling situation you have all the time in the world to work an opponent into a sure-fire position
 

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« Reply #66 on: April 27, 2005, 09:20:02 AM »
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« Reply #67 on: April 27, 2005, 10:23:36 AM »
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gunnery is learned somewhat, but it is truly a trait that if you dont "have it" you never will i believe.


I really disagree with this.  I think some people have a natural talent for it, sure, but I don't think that people born without that talent must suffer with agonizingly poor aim.  It is something you can learn and improve.  I know I didn't start out shooting like I do now in Aces High; I had to work at it, practice, and try new things.  I got better, but I didn't start better.

Looking back, I see I shot about 6-7% from tours 12 through 15 or so.  Something had to happen between then and now to improve my gunnery almost threefold, and it wasn't natural talent.

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