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Offline Yeager

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Air Canada chooses Boeing 777s, 787s
« on: April 25, 2005, 01:38:16 PM »
Air Canada announced plans today to order up to 36 777s and as many as 60 787 Dreamliners.

The airline's plan calls for firm orders for 32 airplanes – 18 777s and 14 787s – plus options for 64 additional airplanes. "Our analysis of these aircraft pointed to overwhelmingly attractive economics," said Robert Milton, president and CEO of Air Canada's parent company. "We have estimated the fuel burn and maintenance [costs] alone on the 787 to be approximately 30 percent [lower than] the 767s they will replace." Air Canada is the 18th airline to select the 787, bringing announced firm orders and commitments to 217.
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2005, 01:53:13 PM »
I wonder what happens if the 787 doesn't meet it's ambitious performance specifications? Another MD-11?
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Offline CMC Airboss

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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2005, 01:58:41 PM »
I wonder what will happen if the 787 exceeds its ambitious performance expectations?
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Offline Pongo

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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2005, 01:59:57 PM »
Good,,
I like Boeings.
I like American planes and I like having a viable producer in north america.
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Offline mora

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2005, 02:00:00 PM »
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I wonder what will happen if the 787 exceeds its ambitious performance expectations?


History has shown it to be quite unlikely.

In other news:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4481733.stm
« Last Edit: April 25, 2005, 02:07:00 PM by mora »
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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2005, 02:11:25 PM »
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I wonder what happens if the 787 doesn't meet it's ambitious performance specifications? Another MD-11?


Just still how much overwight is the A380? How much over budget?

Just askin...
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2005, 02:15:39 PM »
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Just still how much overwight is the A380? How much over budget?

Just askin...


From the link in my previous post.

"In December 2004, Airbus owner EADS revealed that the project was £1bn (1.5bn euros; $1.9bn) over budget, at more than £8.4bn.!"

Dunno about the weight issue though.

The problems with the A380 was the reason I mentioned the performance specifications.

As the A380 doesn't have a direct competitor a little overweight might not be as crucial as in the case of the 787. If the 787 doesn't meet it's specs then Airbus will wipe the table clean with the much cheaper A350.
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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2005, 02:16:17 PM »
mora,

Guarantees are made to the purchaser.  If the stated performance is less than what is guaranteed then the manufacturer pays huge fines.  I mean HUGE fines.  

same for Boeing as for Airbus.  standard operating procedure.

It is in the interest of the manufacturer NOT to miss these performance targets.
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2005, 03:24:38 PM »
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I wonder what happens if the 787 doesn't meet it's ambitious performance specifications? Another MD-11?


I wouldn't matter, Air Canada never does either...
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2005, 04:05:14 PM »
But they are second only to British Airways in single engine flying experience.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2005, 04:09:35 PM »
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But they are second only to British Airways in single engine flying experience.


I believe they lead the league in dead stick Airliner landings too....
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Offline Staga

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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2005, 04:49:08 PM »
I see Boeing and Airbus being like Cadillac and Mercedes; both are good choices and have their good and bad sides and it's up to buyer to decide what he wants.
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2005, 04:50:23 PM »
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Good for Boeing. Wtg!


Will you America Haters ever stop?

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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2005, 05:05:57 PM »
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Will you America Haters ever stop?

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Shhhh...GSholz thinks Boeing is from Asia ;)
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2005, 05:12:34 PM »
All of 'em flies, I want to fly 'em all :D
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