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Offline Raider179

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« on: April 28, 2005, 03:41:35 PM »
Iran has threatened to start enriching Uranium again. I love this response...

The US government is proposing a $30m deal selling up to 100 laser-guided bunker-busting bombs to Israel.

The GBU-28 is a 2,000-kg conventional weapon with a powerful warhead that can burrow through six metres (20 feet) of concrete or 30 metres of earth.

Congress has 30 days to reject planned foreign military sales, but correspondents say it rarely does so.

However, the bombs are to be fitted on its F-15 fighter jets, which would put Iran within range.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4493443.stm

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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2005, 03:43:17 PM »
Yah.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2005, 03:44:33 PM »
WTG!
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2005, 04:01:55 PM »
It will be interesting to see how many planes get through the Iranians air defence system.

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2005, 04:06:07 PM »
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It will be interesting to see how many planes get through the Iranians air defence system.


I bet enough to get the reactor:p
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2005, 04:10:33 PM »
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It will be interesting to see how many planes get through the Iranians air defence system.


My guess would be all of them.

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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2005, 04:12:16 PM »
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My guess would be all of them.


Really, I've seen the briefs on the stuff they have...an ultralight with huge radar reflectors on it could probrably make it through
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2005, 04:21:36 PM »
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Really, I've seen the briefs on the stuff they have...an ultralight with huge radar reflectors on it could probrably make it through



S-200 that crapy?  Another question is whether or not the government of Iraq would let Isreal over fly it.

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2005, 04:28:11 PM »
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S-200 that crapy?  Another question is whether or not the government of Iraq would let Isreal over fly it.


Yep all you gotta do is take out the radars and those things are useless. only real way to defend against an air attack is with aircraft or mobile SAM's. Permament sites are easy targets.

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2005, 04:45:12 PM »
Why all these military hardware details ?

If there is an attack against iranian installations by Israel or another foreigners, then the mullah-regime will be more than happy.

Because then their regime will be stabilized for another decade.


And what damage could be done ?

Even if all known installations in iran will be destroyed it will take only a short time to replace them, because nations like China or Russia will be glad to build new ones for iranian petrodollars.


So its absolutely not interesting if Israel has funny bunkerbombs or Iran has funny S-XXX-anti-air-missiles or if 50 or 100% of the iranian installations will be destroyed.

The only important element in this calculation is:
Is there an attack by foreigners or not?

If yes - then iranian nationalism will be fueled like it happened in the 1980ties, when Saddam and his arab hordes attacked Iran.
And again the mullahregime will be stabilized by such an attack.

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2005, 04:49:55 PM »
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Why all these military hardware details ?

If there is an attack against iranian installations by Israel or another foreigners, then the mullah-regime will be more than happy.

Because then their regime will be stabilized for another decade.


And what damage could be done ?

Even if all known installations in iran will be destroyed it will take only a short time to replace them, because nations like China or Russia will be glad to build new ones for iranian petrodollars.


So its absolutely not interesting if Israel has funny bunkerbombs or Iran has funny S-XXX-anti-air-missiles or if 50 or 100% of the iranian installations will be destroyed.

The only important element in this calculation is:
Is there an attack by foreigners or not?

If yes - then iranian nationalism will be fueled like it happened in the 1980ties, when Saddam and his arab hordes attacked Iran.
And again the mullahregime will be stabilized by such an attack.


nice point but I gotta say the hardware is exactly what is relevant. What do you think Isreal plans on doing with 100 2000lb bunker busters now that Iraq is no longer having to be worried about? The reason they are buying them seems very clear. And I would think if Isreal destroys Iranian reactors China and Russia might think twice about going back in and rebuilding them. And even if they did, they would just get blown up again.

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2005, 04:51:59 PM »
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And I would think if Isreal destroys Iranian reactors China and Russia might think twice about going back in and rebuilding them. And even if they did, they would just get blown up again.


Why would they care.  They get to sell more for more oil.

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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2005, 05:52:02 PM »
Does Iran have 100 bunkers to bust?

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2005, 05:53:36 PM »
Probably not but you have figure they are gonna drop more than 1 on each target.

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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2005, 05:54:36 PM »
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And again the mullahregime will be stabilized by such an attack.


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