Originally posted by Sandman
Draw your own conclusions... I'm led to believe that unwanted children that actually survive childhood tend to make up a large proportion of the prison population.
Personally, I don't consider crime rates to be a good justification of Roe v. Wade. It's an off tangent argument. I do believe that what a women does with her own womb is her business and that the government should stay out of it. Hell... I think people should have the right to do whatever they like to or with their own bodies.
Hi Sandman,
Please don't get me wrong, although we are philosophically at different poles on this subject, I have sincerely appreciated your thoughtfullness and the lack of vitriol in your posts.
Yes, a lot of what the studies term "unwanted children" do make up a large proportion of the prison population. But then again the largest part of the incoming prison population are the children of single mothers, and no one sane has yet published a book stating that the Swiftian solution to the crime problem is euthanize all the welfare moms.
We also seldom stop to consider that for all the "future criminals" removed by abortion we also aborting future doctors, future artists, future scientists, and even possibly future AH programmers. To abort a child is in part to play God, it is to
assume that we know that such a child would be a criminal and malefactor and live a wretched life. It is also to terminate the potential joy such a child would bring to the tens of thousands of couples in the US waiting to adopt. How can anyone know the final outcome of a life while it is in the womb and assess that any human being is not worthy of being born?
And that ultimately is what we are talking about in abortion, not "a woman's control over her own body" but a women's ability to decide to terminate another life. Anyone who has seen an Ultrasound, knows this is a human life, and not a blob of tissue. I still remember the last ultrasound of our son Graham which was done on one of the new Super-cool 3D ultrasounds. We saw the expressions on his face, watched him suck his thumb, cry at one point (he was PO'd at being prodded and poked by the technician) and all that at a point in my wife's pregnancy when she could have legally elected to terminate him. Even an ardent feminist like Naomi Wolfe, confronted with her own pregnancy and ultrasound pictures was forced to publicly concede in 1995 that the "part of my body" argument was bogus and that this is in fact a life.
As a society we recognize that fact of personhood but have taken the confusing position that a woman should still have the absolute right to decide to end the life of that person. The rather bizzarre position was graphically illustrated by the fact that Scott Peterson was convicted of a double-homicide for killing his wife and his unborn child. The truly odd consideration is that Lacy Peterson could have
legally killed the same child on the same day that she herself was murdered.
Apparently we have decided that the the womb must continue to be the most dangerous place in the United States for a person to be.
- SEAGOON
