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Offline humble

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How bout cleaning up some GV lameness....
« on: May 01, 2005, 05:03:00 PM »
Since the Trees etc have been "opitimized how bout looking at a few basic "issues"....

1st...armor piercing rounds do not explode when they hit tree leaves. Amazed how many of the "GV aces" simply exploit this and other lame elements of the GV "model". Personally I'd rather see AP rounds just ignore tree's etc then have them act like they do now....same for AP vs buildings etc...they dont "explode vs buildings either.....

2nd...no tanker is going to hide in the fuel depot of a base....tanks should die if they are anywhere near the fuel dump when it goes...or ammo bunkers as well....

Lines of sight...

Trees simply are not modeled where they are...tired of other GV's shooting thru tree trunks...now I understand that if you are in close proximity you can be blocked...I'm talking about the other guy being very close to the tree and literally hidden...yet you 1600 away have no LOS to his tank at all...but he can shoot you cleanly...again physics are simply impossible.

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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2005, 08:33:15 PM »
I'll agree, that at times it seems a little odd that a 88mm round is stopped in it's tracks by a tree branch or group of leaves.

Don't have the answer to this one, maybe HTC will find a work around.

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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2005, 08:40:52 PM »
Overall Ithink the GV game has improved tremendously....but it makes the "glitches" so much more apparent and frustrating....

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Re: How bout cleaning up some GV lameness....
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2005, 09:05:07 PM »
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Lines of sight...

Trees simply are not modeled where they are...tired of other GV's shooting thru tree trunks...now I understand that if you are in close proximity you can be blocked...I'm talking about the other guy being very close to the tree and literally hidden...yet you 1600 away have no LOS to his tank at all...but he can shoot you cleanly...again physics are simply impossible.


Actually therte are times when you can be seen and not see the other person.
Depends on where your head/view is from and the angle.
Just because you have a tree blocking your view  doesnt mean the other person has that same tree blocking their view.
Remember the tank is alot bigger then just from where the views are. If your viewing something from the front of the tank your not going to get the same view if you were sitting on the back of it.
And tanks are larger then treetrunks so it would stand to reason that even though the driver may be behind the tree the rest of the tank isnt.

Stand next to a tree sometime and spread your arms.
Its possible that you wont be able to see someone standing even quite a distance away because of your LOS but he can certainly see you.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2005, 09:52:53 PM »
the one i love the best is being stopped by a bush in my 70 ton tiger

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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2005, 09:53:00 PM »
FPS need alot of work, before these new trees I got an average of 30fps while in a gv. Now I get an average of 20 while in a gun position, but when I zoom in it drops to single digit numbers.

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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2005, 09:55:48 PM »
If I'm 1500 yda away from you and your behind a tree 25 yds...then the tree effects only a degree or so of my field of vision. I should as youdais be able to view a large portion of the tank. Also if I'm in the turret MG view I'm right over the gun. Now if the other guy has line of sight on me I should have line of sight on him....There is no geometry that will give him LOS to my tank and not give me an equal or better LOS...their are no variable optics in a gun site....now if you were closw to a tree and your vision was obstructed thru a significant part of the 360 defree circle...lets say 40 deg for example...if the other guy had a 2 degree obstruction then he couldnt see youin that small portion...but would see you thru 38 degrees your blind in. The tank in question exchanged shots then move behind a tree. I was 1600 or so yds away...the tree was prob 40-50 yds in front of him...no wat he has optical line of sight on me and I cant see him...just that simple.

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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2005, 09:57:40 PM »
BTW look at the comparative size of the redwoods in picture above.....easily bigger than turret...maybe as big as tank...

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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2005, 10:06:24 PM »
wasn't it ah1 you could target the trees and blow em away, clearing the field?

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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2005, 10:24:54 PM »
Nothing more frustrating than being able to see and target ur nme......but there's that 1 leaf in the way....then u get killed.

Oh well shouldn't have been in the open  :rolleyes:  target fixation

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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2005, 10:36:10 PM »
HOW HAVE THE TREES BEEN OPTIMIZED?
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2005, 11:16:21 PM »
Probably a bad choice of words but theyare individually modeled I believe....so they should show like any other object...or are the hangers ack etc "not" where we show them to be either. Sometimes youshoot to side of a tree and round explodes other times seems youcan shoot thru it....

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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2005, 11:42:09 PM »
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HOW HAVE THE TREES BEEN OPTIMIZED?


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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2005, 12:32:49 AM »
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the one i love the best is being stopped by a bush in my 70 ton tiger


Gee I would have thought it was the one where not only they stop you but flip you upside down.
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2005, 02:11:22 AM »
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Gee I would have thought it was the one where not only they stop you but flip you upside down.


You mean the invisable ones.....:lol