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Offline Furball

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« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2005, 09:14:22 AM »
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« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2005, 11:12:42 AM »
You know what would be cool?

Well, a lot of things. And I'm not saying I want this next, because there are more pressing needs.

But a B-25C would be good. NOT a B25J, NOT a B25H. The early C version, so that we can at least PRETEND we have early bombers in the mix.

Blenheims, Halifaxes, maybe an early Ju88, He111, or some early bombers for those that actually like flying the early stuff.

Hell I'd fly B25s every time I wanted to bomb, if we had them.

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« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2005, 12:25:45 PM »
btw Soviet planes needs rockets!

La-5s and yaks carrier RS-82 and some Katyushas

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« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2005, 04:39:47 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2005, 04:43:24 PM »
screw that list, i want a P47M!

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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2005, 04:48:16 PM »
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screw that list, i want a P47M!


Why the M ?

N is almost as fast, more manuverable, can carry ord, has more armour and alot better range.

And it was produced in serious numbers.

http://home.att.net/~Historyzone/Seversky-Republic8.html



"The XP-47N took to the air for the first time on July 22, 1944. Test comparisons were made with a P-47D-30-RE throughout the early portion of the evaluation period. Much to everyone’s surprise, the XP-47N, with its greater wingspan and higher weight actually proved to have better roll performance than the D model. At 250 mph TAS, the N attained a maximum roll rate just over 100 degrees/second. The P-47D-30-RE could manage but 85 degrees/second at the same speed. At higher speeds, the N widened the gap further. In mock combat with a P-47D-25-RE, the new fighter proved to be notably superior in every category of performance. In short, the XP-47 waxed the venerable D model regardless of who was piloting the older fighter. The new wing was part of this newfound ____dogfighting ability____, however, the more powerful C series engine played a role too. The additional horsepower allowed the N to retain its energy better than the older Thunderbolt. Perhaps the greatest performance increase was in maximum speed. Though not as fast as the stunning P-47M, the heavier N was fully 40 mph faster than the P-47D-25-RE and could generate speeds 30 mph greater than its principal rival, the Mustang. Scorching along at 467 mph @ 32,000 ft., ____the N could not be caught by any fighter in regular service with any air force on earth with the single exception of its M model sibling.____ This combination of wing and engine had pushed the N model up to the top rank of the superlative prop driven fighters then in existence."

"The testing program included determining the maximum range of the fighter. This was done with various combinations of fuel loads and external drop tanks. Ultimately, a test flight was made from Farmingdale to Eglin Field in Florida. The XP-47N took off with two 315 gallon drop tanks hanging from the under-wing hardpoints. Usable fuel in these tanks totaled 600 gallons. Added to the internal fuel load, the N eased off the runway with 1,170 gallons of fuel (usable). At a gross weight of 20,166 lbs., the Thunderbolt headed south in company with a P-47D chase plane. Arriving off the coast, east of Elgin in 3 hours, 44 minutes, the external tanks were dropped. Another P-47D, already waiting at Elgin, took on the N in a mock dogfight that lasted for twenty minutes. The throttle was advanced to military power for 15 minutes of this time, with an additional five minutes in the War Emergency Power (WEP) detent. After these fun and games were concluded the N was turned around and flown back towards Farmingdale. Heavy weather over Long Island caused the plane to divert to Woodbine, New Jersey. Having flown 1,980 miles, total fuel usage was measured at 1,057.5 gallons. There was still more than 112 gallons of usable fuel remaining in the main fuselage tank, enough for another 330 miles @ 1,700 rpm in auto-lean. ____The XP-47N was now the king of long-range single engine fighters____ (the all time leader of long range escorts was the P-38L-1-LO, which could claim a combat radius of nearly 1,500 miles under ideal conditions)."

"Eventually, ____1,816 P-47Ns____ were completed before the cancellation of the contract after Japan surrendered. The big fighters were deployed to the Pacific and were beginning to demonstrate their full potential when two atomic bombs put an end to the conflict. After the war, most of the P-47Ns were allocated to Reserve and Air Guard units, where they served faithfully until they were replaced by jets in the mid 1950s."







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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2005, 07:16:05 PM »
That gushing article seems a bit superlative to me. I'm fairly sure that the 262 out ran it. Yet it says only the P47M was faster. Forget faster planes. Just more of a chance for newbies to run away in them!

Anyways, wait til the uber-super-over-powered-allied-flaps are reduced in efficiency, THEN wait for the planeset to be rounded out more, THEN introduce new allied fighters.

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« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2005, 04:04:11 PM »
Ive been waiting for the 47 N , what a MA ride that would be .   38

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« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2005, 04:28:40 PM »
P-61
P-39
P-63
MiG-3
B-25

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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2005, 04:55:41 PM »
wow, I must really be slipping. Once upon a time a thread like this couldn't go two days without me saying:


Judy, Judy, Judy


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You: Blah Blah Blah
Me: Meh, whatever.