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Offline RightF00T

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300mph Ditch= No Kill
« on: May 04, 2005, 11:50:40 PM »
I'm sick and tired of watching a con I fought to the deck striking the ground at ridicolous speeds, instantly slowing down and then exiting to tower with no kill.

EDIT: Sorry my initial post was made in a fit of anger which isn't very productive.  I understand a pilot could feasibly live at high speeds, but if you cause a plane to crash with your bullets shouldn't that be counted as a kill, ditch or not?
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Offline sullie363

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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2005, 02:12:02 AM »
That's only happened to me when they're near their base.  Still annoying though.
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Offline killnu

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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2005, 06:10:31 AM »
the ground is made of nerf...and it stinks.    nothing like shooting tail or wing off enemy to watch them fall to earth, for a ditch.   or better yet, land on top of a tree...for a ditch.  :(
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Offline Tails

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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2005, 07:56:58 AM »
Ya know, at the vertical speed most of these insane ditches (some of which I've even been able to pull off) are happening, the pilot COULD concivably live... Of course, he'd probably be hating life at that point.

The problem is that what isn't modeled is how something will start rolling about on the ground, shedding parts like crazy, after such an impact... (I'm envisioning what happens to a F1 or CART car when it smacks something and starts to roll)

Maybe HT could figure out a way to model such spectacular crashes when something goes SPLAT fast eneough.
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Offline moot

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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2005, 11:19:12 AM »
except F1 cars are made to be underweight and brake on impact to cushion the pilot.
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Offline Virage

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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2005, 02:29:03 PM »
AH2 relaxed the ditch model for some reason.  I seem to remember some 'femaledogging' about ditching being too hard early on.    I have fought planes that would of crashed in AH1, only skid to a stop in AH2.   The pilot gets a ditch, and I lost the kill.

AH1 had it right.
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Offline Midnight

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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2005, 03:23:19 PM »
I don't care if the pilot I shoot down gets a ditch or a bail or a crash. If I make him loose his plane, it should be a kill credited to me.

I think the kill credit should be awarded to the shooting pilot any time an aircraft (that was shot) is forced to ditch where the airframe would be considered a loss (i.e. wings ripped off, smashed fuse, lost in the forest, etc.) For that matter, if the pilot exits the plane and is not on an airfield, the plane should be considered lost and the shooting pilot should be awarded the kill. That is how it would have been in RL.
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Offline g00b

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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2005, 03:49:07 PM »
Touching the ground at 200+mph should result in death. I have yet to hear of any real-life ditches at 200 and up.

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Offline Tails

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2005, 05:31:51 PM »
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Originally posted by g00b
Touching the ground at 200+mph should result in death. I have yet to hear of any real-life ditches at 200 and up.

g00b


Well, in theory one could ditch at 200+mph... The only catches are that the landing surface would need to be incredibly flat, solid, and smooth, the the approach ing aircraft would need to come in flat, at a very shallow angle and low vertical speed.
But I agree, that if I shoot someone's wing off and they go skittering across the ground, there should be a kill at the end.

And to Moot:

I was going mostly for visualization with that statement.
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Offline Don

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2005, 06:40:15 PM »
Since the latest patch and new version all that has changed. I can now land an a/c wheels up w/o concern, instead of doing it the usual way; it makes landing in the face of an nme at a capped field easier (gamey as hell IMO)
I can now shoot to ribbons nme a/c and watch them dive away and ditch; I will not get the kill; in AH1 and the previous patch I was getting the kill if an nme ditched or bailed. Prox kills have also been affected.
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2005, 09:33:56 AM »
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...I think the kill credit should be awarded to the shooting pilot any time an aircraft (that was shot) is forced to ditch where the airframe would be considered a loss (i.e. wings ripped off, smashed fuse, lost in the forest, etc.) ...


I personally would prefer the most realistic ditching model possible BUT... this looks like a good gameplay comprimise.  Relaxed ditch w/ kill awarded to attacker.
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Offline rabbidrabbit

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2005, 12:52:46 PM »
If you think thats bad, I shot both wings off a 262 on the deck over the water.  He just dropped down and got the ditch at 450 mph.  Explain that one?
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Offline wigglepog

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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2005, 02:51:57 PM »
Ditching seems way more difficult with the new tree world.  IMO
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Offline Kegger26

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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2005, 03:04:27 PM »
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Ditching seems way more difficult with the new tree world.  IMO


Then your not flying in the right places. AH has become a copy of Doom. I am getting alittle tired of it to tell you the truth.
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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2005, 03:20:20 PM »
My favoritre is when the guy you shot ditches in the sea and you still dont get credit for your kill...

:mad: :lol

Thats a pretty lame gameplay feature, I hope HTC fixes it sometime.
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