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« Reply #180 on: May 07, 2005, 01:49:12 PM »
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And I have not attended church regulary for many years.


Doesnt the bible at least suggest that yiu should? Jesus did much of his teaching in temples. The apostles are called by jesus to spread the message to many communities and to found churches throughout. Paul was instructed specifically to bring to the church to you, to the gentiles. All of this involved establishing and supporting churches.  Have you ever read Paul's writings in the new testaments? Read any of his letters to the churches he founded?   Remember, every word in the bible is devinely inspired, it is the word of god put to paper by man. It is very clear on how one should pray in church, very detailed instructions are given.

But you do not go to church! Tell me where in the bible does it say that you should not go to church? Give it to me literally, book, chapter, verse everything. Show me.

If you cant show me , then please answer: are you going to hell for your blasphemus behavior?

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« Reply #181 on: May 07, 2005, 01:50:05 PM »
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Sure, they are Christians.


NUKE now you are saying catholics are christions?

You seemed to hvae a different opinion before...

Why the change?

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« Reply #182 on: May 07, 2005, 01:53:59 PM »
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« Reply #183 on: May 07, 2005, 01:57:29 PM »
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Doesnt the bible at least suggest that yiu should? Jesus did much of his teaching in temples. The apostles are called by jesus to spread the message to many communities and to found churches throughout. Paul was instructed specifically to bring to the church to you, to the gentiles. All of this involved establishing and supporting churches.  Have you ever read Paul's writings in the new testaments? Read any of his letters to the churches he founded?   Remember, every word in the bible is devinely inspired, it is the word of god put to paper by man. It is very clear on how one should pray in church, very detailed instructions are given.

But you do not go to church! Tell me where in the bible does it say that you should not go to church? Give it to me literally, book, chapter, verse everything. Show me.

If you cant show me , then please answer: are you going to hell for your blasphemus behavior?


I never said that I was not a sinner, Grunhurz, and I never said I was a role model Christian. Everyone of us sin.

I don't know where in the bible it is instructing anyone to go to a church though.

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« Reply #184 on: May 07, 2005, 02:01:00 PM »
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NUKE now you are saying catholics are christions?

You seemed to hvae a different opinion before...

Why the change?



here is what I said a few days ago in the thread about "666"


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Yeah, I know that technically, Catholics are Christian. However, when someone mentions "Catholics" and "Christians", most people in America understand what the difference is.

If I say "Christian evangelist", do you think of a television preacher or the Catholic Pope?

Catholics fashioned themselves into whole new cult in my opinion.

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« Reply #185 on: May 07, 2005, 02:01:12 PM »
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I said that I beleive nobody will get to heaven unless they accept Jesus. How many times do you want me to say it?


I know you have said that.

Now my question is that since aborted babies, Amazonian Aboringinies and Muslim children in the most remote valleys of Afghanistan cannot accept Jesus because there is absolutely no way they can hear about him and comply with

Romans 10:9-10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus

So go ahead and say it, Nuke.

The abortions, aboriginies and Muslim kids are going to hell.

Because , in your own words:

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I believe nobody will get to heaven unless they accept Jesus.


Now, since you don't go to services, how do you comply with the 3rd Commandment?

Or do the Commandments not count in the Bible According To Nuke?
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« Reply #186 on: May 07, 2005, 02:06:59 PM »
Actually NIKE proteststrans are the ones who evolved into a whole bunch of new cults. Hundreds of them, many of which hate each ocher (and all other christians), many of which have bizzare practices (snakes, poision, no alcohol), many of which who think all others are going to hell.

Proterstants are the recent 500 year old freaks, catholicism and eastern orthodox are the 2000 year old traditional church tracing back to jesus and the 12 apostles.

Oh, and get your arse to church!

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« Reply #187 on: May 07, 2005, 02:08:17 PM »
The commandments are the old law Toad, after Jesus they are no longer the standard for salvation, Jesus is.

And here is my final answer to you about aborted fetuses and people who have never heard of Jesus before.

1. I believe, as most Christians do, that nobody will get into heaven , except through Jesus Christ. That's black and white to me.

2. answer number one does not rule out , in any way, that aborted fetuses and people who have never heard of Jesus, will not have the chance to accept Jesus and go to heaven.

3. God is fair and Just.

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« Reply #188 on: May 07, 2005, 02:25:07 PM »
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The commandments are the old law Toad, after Jesus they are no longer the standard for salvation, Jesus is.
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So we can violate the 10 Commandments then, right?

Ash-Can that "keep holy the Sabbath" stuff because it doesn't count anymore.

Great! This self-interpretation of the Bible makes life a lot easier. The entire Old Testament is outta here!




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And here is my final answer to you about aborted fetuses and people who have never heard of Jesus before.

1. I believe, as most Christians do, that nobody will get into heaven , except through Jesus Christ. That's black and white to me.

2. answer number one does not rule out , in any way, that aborted fetuses and people who have never heard of Jesus, will not have the chance to accept Jesus and go to heaven.

3. God is fair and Just.


Of course it rules out aborted fetuses and people who have never heard of Jesus. Otherwise, it is NOT BLACK AND WHITE.

Surely you are intelligent to see that much.

Maybe not. In any event, please continue to contradict yourself. It puts the value of your arguments where it belongs.
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« Reply #189 on: May 07, 2005, 02:29:57 PM »
NUKE what do you do to accept Jesus?

I'm curious do you go around robbing and stealing and murdering and commiting adutery with a clear conscience because you "accepted Jesus?"

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« Reply #190 on: May 07, 2005, 02:33:04 PM »
It's real simple, Grun:

Romans 10:9-10 is your get out of jail free card.

Do it once, do it twice... use it as many times as you like.

Humans are expected to have failures but as long as you are truly sorry each time and hit the Romans 10:9-10 reset button, you'll be OK.

You just don't want to get caught in failure by death with no time to hit reset.
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« Reply #191 on: May 07, 2005, 02:37:17 PM »
So an old Catholic woman genuflects as she enters the church, and quietly proceeds to the alter.  She reverently kneels and begins a long stretch of praying.

After about 20 minutes, before her is an apparition of the Savior Himself, Jesus H. Christ.

"What troubles you my child?"

"Shut up kid, I'm talking to your mother."
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« Reply #192 on: May 07, 2005, 02:48:49 PM »
The Pope's secretary comes to the Holy Father and says "Your Holiness I have some good news and some bad news."

"What's the good news?"

"Christ has returned, he's on the phone, and he want's to talk to you."

"Well halleluhah, that is wonderous news!  What bad news could possibly taint such a wonderous occurance?"

"He's calling from Salt Lake City"
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« Reply #193 on: May 07, 2005, 02:55:49 PM »
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No, the only people that will go to hell are those who do not accept Jesus. Pretty simple.


So thats does the Jews, Hindu's Muslims and just about everyone except for you and the rest of the pointy heads?

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« Reply #194 on: May 07, 2005, 03:09:57 PM »
Nuke where does earthly behavior figure in for a christian?