Author Topic: When is Bush going to clean up our waters?  (Read 920 times)

Offline Toad

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When is Bush going to clean up our waters?
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2005, 12:35:02 AM »
Oh yeah.. for those of you that don't like links:

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Combined Sewer Overflow Studies

Pollution of the Ohio River from urban areas is a significant problem. Previous ORSANCO studies have pinpointed elevated levels of bacteria from such sources as combined sewer overflows (CSOs) to be the pollution source most in need of attention.
 


So when is Bush going to stop cities from expanding, building more homes, more stores and parking lots that create excessive runoff causing combined sewer overflow?

Also, when are all of us going to stop crapping in the sewers? Fer pete's sake! It's running into our rivers and seashores! Put a cork in it!
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When is Bush going to clean up our waters?
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2005, 01:10:31 AM »
i've read this same thread regularly for maybe 4 years

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« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2005, 02:01:18 AM »
Suntracker thats what happens when you  live in a place where the average citizen has  an eco footprint of 10 hectares and your country is the worlds greatest polluter!

If you are worried about the environment try doing something bout your consumption and polution of natural resources.

Just an idea

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« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2005, 04:46:59 AM »
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Originally posted by Toad
Oh yeah.. for those of you that don't like links:



So when is Bush going to stop cities from expanding, building more homes, more stores and parking lots that create excessive runoff causing combined sewer overflow?

Also, when are all of us going to stop crapping in the sewers? Fer pete's sake! It's running into our rivers and seashores! Put a cork in it!



Give Bush a break will you Toad. Hes got horses to milk and other important things to do.

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« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2005, 08:53:48 AM »
I would like to read your cities/states local limits to see how much mercury and arsenic is allowed to be released into the recieving waters.

Did Bush give these polluters an exemtion?  I would like to know how they got it since my limits for wastewater are actually lower than that for drinking water (and therefore impossible to achieve).

Your state water quality resources board must be really easy to get along with eh?

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« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2005, 09:03:25 AM »
Local limits for my city

Parameter Maximum Daily Concentration
Total Arsenic 0.82 mg/l
Total Cadmium 0.15 mg/l
Total Chromium 5.0 mg/l
Total Copper 0.92 mg/l
Total Lead 0.25 mg/l
Total Mercury 0.0015 mg/l
Total Nickel 1.5 mg/l
Total Silver 0.40 mg/l
Total Zinc 3.4 mg/l
Ammonia 50.0 mg/l
Cyanide, Amenable 0.15 mg/l
Oil & Grease (Hydrocarbon) 100.0 mg/l

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« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2005, 09:21:34 AM »
sounds about right.   Where do you (your city) discharge to?   oceans with good flushing action have higher limits usually.

rivers may have all the available dillution factor used up do to population....  in those cases... there is usually a ND or, none dettectable limit applied to most heavy metals for instance.

All cities operate under a discharge permit that is renewable every so many years or whenever the EPA passes new limits.

local problems should be addressed by state water resouces boards.  

not meeting impossible goals leaves two options... A "cease and desist" order where you are no longer allowed to discharge therefore closing the city or saddling it with huge fines or... simply not allowing any growth.

The biggest problem is that most forms of treatment only move the problem around.   simple example is cl2 for disenfection... somebody needs to make the stuff... making it causes pollution... then... it has to be removed... removing it requires another chemical that needs to be made and the whole thing takes a facility that uses a lot of resources to run..  and on and on..

Oh... the limits described in his post are in parts per million for those who didn't know.  (mg/l=ppm in the meteric politicaly corect version)

lazs
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