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Offline 1Klink

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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2005, 12:57:48 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2005, 02:45:47 PM »
~S~ MDJoe!!  you will be back, just a matter of when. ;)   some time away may be a good thing, to be honest.  give you a fresh look on things.  

On a side note, i always use combat trim...i think manual trim is overrated >95% of time in main arena.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2005, 02:55:19 PM »
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Players never, or should never, think that they know the moves and when to use them.  I'm still learning as I play -- learning how a slight roll here works better than a slight roll there, or when I should best chop throttle or kick rudder, or whatever.  The learning becomes more incremental after years of play, but it's still there.  
-- Todd/Leviathn

There ya go.  Words of wisdom.  It eventually comes down to the fine tuning.  

That is probably the most profound lesson Ive learned since comming to AH.  When I came to AH, I thought I had already reached my peak with defensive positioning in AW (not strictly evading, but placing myself so the other guy has a low or no percentage shot).  After *almost* shooting down DMF and Drex repeatedly, I realized that those two had it honed to a razors edge, and I had alot of work to do.  Same thing applies to all ACM.  A little adjustment, changes the outcome by alot.

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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2005, 06:07:07 PM »
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I have noticed that after a year of flying this GAME a lot of pilots get too a point where they know the moves and when too use them but yet they still get the same result and become frustrated.

The 1 thing i like too teach new pilots right off the bat is TRIM CONTROL.The practice of using trim control.Most of these pilots are using combat trim.The thing is no one will ever tell any of the new pilots this info.The reaction you get from a  noob after he uses trim control and then realizes that the plane fly's in a completeely different way is amazing.2 LTAR pilots were in the TA the other day and i showed them how too use trim control and they were amazed at how it improved thier flight experience.

IMO- we should teach the new pilots  out of the gate how too use trim as well as ACM skills.I believe that instead of not telling the noobs all the tricks of the trade turns out bad pilots instead of pilots that will have some skill and knowledge and give you a 1/2 way decent fight when you encounter them.I,m just trying too improve the overall gameplay of others.

Maddog if you need any instruction i,m usually in the TA in the evenings eastern time.



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I think some of you guys way overrate manual trim. New guys would be way better off focussing on ACM and not worrying about trim . The very slight ocassional difference in performance is not going to tip a fight for them.
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2005, 06:38:24 PM »
Redd is right.  For the most part, you can get away in 99.9% of the planes in AH by flying with Combat Trim on and not need to worry about trimming your plane.  Teaching the new player the basic foundation of BFM, ACM and the practical concept of SA is far more productive and will yield tangible results far sooner and will probably also help retain the new player.  Knowing how to trim your plane is useless if you don't know how to fight.



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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2005, 06:52:00 PM »
Manual trim is a pain in the poop-shooter.
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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2005, 08:56:49 PM »
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I think some of you guys way overrate manual trim. New guys would be way better off focussing on ACM and not worrying about trim . The very slight ocassional difference in performance is not going to tip a fight for them

So being able too turn your aircraft even further in a dogfight would not benefit anyone?

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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2005, 09:00:32 PM »
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I think some of you guys way overrate manual trim. New guys would be way better off focussing on ACM and not worrying about trim . The very slight ocassional difference in performance is not going to tip a fight for them

So being able too turn your aircraft even further in a dogfight would not benefit anyone?



What's the use if you don't know what to do?  It's fine to teach them how to use the trim to squeeze the max performance of the plane but if you don't teach them how to utilize it, it's all a wasted effort.

Here's an example that you might understand.  You teach a kid who's never ridden a bike how to jump but what good is that if you didn't teach how to ride the bike first?


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