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Offline Krusher

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« on: May 10, 2005, 08:49:16 AM »
Its very nice to know that the only thing separating the EU from the return of Nazis is the EU constitution!


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Margot Wallstrom, a Swede and the commissioner who must sell the draft constitution to voters, argued that politicians who resisted pooling national sovereignty risked a return to Nazi horrors of the 1930s and 1940s.

Mrs Wallstrom, vice-president of the commission for institutional relations and communications, was speaking in the former Jewish ghetto of Terezin in the Czech Republic.

She blamed the Second World War on "nationalistic pride and greed, and … international rivalry for wealth and power". The EU had replaced such rivalry with an historic agreement to share national sovereignty.

Her fellow commissioners also issued a joint declaration, stating that EU citizens should pay tribute to the dead of the Second World War by voting Yes to the draft constitution for Europe.

The commissioners also gave the EU sole credit for ending the Cold War, making no mention of the role of Nato and the United States.
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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2005, 09:01:04 AM »
what do the swedes care... the nazis never hurt them.

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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2005, 09:21:18 AM »
"The commissioners also gave the EU sole credit for ending the Cold War, making no mention of the role of Nato and the United States."


Anti-Americanism is the heart and soul of what will unify the EU- we read it in the papers, we see it on TV but, most of all, we read it right here on the Internet.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2005, 10:11:45 AM »
Thanks for the link to the article and thanks to the article for interpreting her words without giving us the opportunity to do it ourselves.

By the way, she says no such thing as "we will see another holocaust if you don't vote for the constitution". I've just read the whole speech and it never draws that conclusion.
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2005, 10:28:56 AM »
Thank for the source !


I guess it's "freerepublic.com" again ?
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2005, 10:41:39 AM »
Just as bad - the Daily Telegraph.

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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2005, 11:24:12 AM »
Good old Rupert  is still alive and kicking ... :p
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2005, 11:24:25 AM »
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Thank for the source !


I guess it's "freerepublic.com" again ?


the telegraph.
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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2005, 11:41:14 AM »
a swede talking about nazis? pfft... they were  trade partner with the nazis, what would they know about them.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2005, 12:55:31 PM »
Heck if you really want to get rabbid, Bush's grandfather had a business deal with Germany supplying material up almost till 42 when the U.S. government slapped him with a cease and desist or be prosicuted for aiding and abetting the enemy. I suspect this is the root of the Geroge W. Hitler jokes.
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2005, 01:43:08 PM »
Western Europe would have been better served under soviet rule.  Perhaps they would be a bit more bearable today.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2005, 01:49:15 PM »
"Heck if you really want to get rabbid, Bush's grandfather had a business deal with Germany supplying material up almost till 42 "


As a matter of historcial record, we weren't at war with Germany almost until '42, either.



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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2005, 02:00:00 PM »
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Its very nice to know that the only thing separating the EU from the return of Nazis is the EU constitution!


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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2005, 02:01:30 PM »
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Western Europe would have been better served under soviet rule.  Perhaps they would be a bit more bearable today.
nah, they'd hate us then for not saving their sorry butts.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2005, 02:10:04 PM »
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As a matter of historcial record, we weren't at war with Germany almost until '42, either.


Just makes it interesting that the USA was in trade embargo with the japanese, but not with the germans.
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