Originally posted by Chairboy
Nope. Here's your exact quote:
Too easy. I didn't mention anything about keeping them veiled or covered, btw. Here are some examples that bolster my assertion that the bible ain't a friend of womenfolk:
...and so on.
Chairboy,
The quotes you use with the exception Genesis 3 simply speak of the restrictions against women holding office and preaching and teaching in the church, none of them are held by competent Christian exegetes as teaching that women must be silent at all times. If you doubt this and think its some sort of modern revisionist interpretation, I can send you Calvin's commentary from the 1540s on these verses.
Genesis 3 speaks of the universal consequences of man's rebellion and the fall. If this was "anti-woman" were the weighty consequences that befell Adam,
"Cursed is the ground for your sake; In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life. Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, And you shall eat the herb of the field. In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return." anti-man or anti-farmer?
None of these verses say, "shut up your wives" or "treat them as animals" far from it, the Bible has other verses regarding the treatment of women you failed to mention:
Col 3:19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be bitter toward them.
Eph. 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her,
26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,
27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish.
28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself.
29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church.
1 Cor. 7:3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband.
4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
5 Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
I'm having difficulty understanding why you believe that merely because the bible isn't absolutely egalitarian and recognizes God ordained differences both in function and role between the sexes that it is anti-woman? Is it anti-child when it says: Col. 3:20 "Children, obey your parents in all things, for this is well pleasing to the Lord." Does the fact that the Bible teaches that there is a hierarchial relationship between the Father and the Son, with the Son (who is equal with the father) voluntarily submitting and doing His Father's will, make the Bible "anti-Jesus?" Why is submission necessarily "anti?" Christians are called upon to serve one another, to die to self, we are even told to be about the business of
"submitting to one another in the fear of God." Even Jesus said:
Matt. 20:26 "Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant.
27 "And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave --
28 "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."- SEAGOON
