Author Topic: Is this true about the A20? (Read 636 times)

Sp4de · « **on:** May 14, 2005, 11:15:10 AM »

" The most widely used Havoc variant was the A-20G. The A-20G was armed with six .50 caliber Browning machine guns in the nose, two more in the powered dorsal turret, and a handheld .30 or .50 caliber machine gun in the ventral position.

Depending on her fuel load, the A-20 could carry up to 4000 pounds of bombs in the bomb bay, along with four more 500 pounders on wing hardpoints. A top speed of 342 mph made the A-20G a fast, hard-hitting attack aircraft. "

Notice this part?
"a handheld .30 or .50 caliber machine gun in the ventral position."

Was it just not added like the radio operators gun in the b17g?

Sikboy · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:31:49 AM »

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58301

-Sik

Krusty · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:34:46 AM »

For those that don't want to link: HTC had no accurate photos of the area, couldn't model it. So they left it out. Same reason we don't have periscope on the Ar234. They couldn't decide how to do it so they left it out. Game designer's decision.

Wotan · « **Reply #3 on:** May 14, 2005, 12:55:37 PM »

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Same reason we don't have periscope on the Ar234.

The reason there is no 'periscope view' on the 234 isn't due to lack of pictures and is in no way similar to the ventral gun on the A-20.

I have about 10 pictures of the periscope I found on the web. I know many more in other books.

The reason there is no periscope on the 234 is the difficulty it would require in getting it to work correctly. This is the same reason we might never see a Tu-2 or 410. It isn't a graphic problem per se but a problem of proper function.

Besides in AH they don't use 'accurate cockpits' and while in the 'periscope view' it would look about the same as a tanks main gun view.

The periscope in the 234 served several functions, including a bomb site for shallow angle attacks. I had posted many times on the forum how it works and even some pictures.

So the 2 are completely different.

Krusty · « **Reply #4 on:** May 14, 2005, 03:04:15 PM »

"Game designer's decision."

That's why we don't have ventral gun on a20. And why we don't have periscope. That's what I meant

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:27:50 PM »

Isn't there any A20 left in a museum to take pictures at least ???

Sikboy · « **Reply #6 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:35:20 PM »

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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
Isn't there any A20 left in a museum to take pictures at least ???

They get itchy when you try to climb inside for the "gunner's view"

-Sik

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 15, 2005, 02:23:08 AM »

A litle talkin a bit sponsoring and the visitors see some AH advertisement.

What a great deal could be made

Ghosth · « **Reply #8 on:** May 15, 2005, 07:33:28 AM »

Don't care about the MG, but I want the rest of its ord!

Heck you can even make it easy, give me 4 1k's inside, 4 500's outside.

Come on HT, pryo, please make it right.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 15, 2005, 09:25:16 AM »

para frags just like in il2, O and the ventral gun is modelled there.

cobia38 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 15, 2005, 09:31:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Ghosth
Don't care about the MG, but I want the rest of its ord!

Heck you can even make it easy, give me 4 1k's inside, 4 500's outside.

Come on HT, pryo, please make it right.

you forgot the quad 20mm package that would be a nice perk adition

Ghosth · « **Reply #11 on:** May 16, 2005, 07:37:37 AM »

Your right, for a reasonable perk price I'd fly that and love it.

Karnak · « **Reply #12 on:** May 16, 2005, 10:39:55 AM »

A lot of operation A-20G's had the ventral gun removed. The A-20G in AH is in an accurate operational configuration.

Why would a four cannon A-20G be perked?