pci express

[Jnuk]

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what's it mean?

[Sundowner]

Originally posted by Jnuk
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what's it mean?

http://www.google.com/




Regards,
Sun

[Sundowner]

In case you dont know how to use an internet search engine:

 PCI Express – an emerging (2004/2005) standard for high-speed graphics, likely to result in a 20% boost over 2003-era AGP 8x performance. The standard, supported by ATI and other vendors, delivers better power management, bi-directional simultaneous I/O and 4GB/s bandwidth.


regards,
Sun

[Jnuk]

Hey, thanks for the snobby attitude.
but at least you responded.

[StarOfAfrica2]

Not to point out the obvious or anything, but it is Saturday.  Also not to point out the obvious, but even if Skuzzy or any helpfully inclined folks WOULD happen to peruse the boards on their days off, and WOULD answer your question probably are not looking for that type of thing in the Tech Support area.  Hardware and Software is a few clicks down.  Have a good weekend!

Oh, and yes, I am a smartass.  So are most of the other members of the BBS, even the helpful ones (which I try to be).  I dont mean to hurt your feelings, but the fellow above is right.  Google is your friend.  Be nice to him.

[Schutt]

Hi Jnuk

Was about to explain but not with this attitude, ask somewhere else good luck man.

When you ask on an open board dont expect the anwser to be exactly what you thought it would be, cause if you know the anwser its kinda pointless to ask.

When you go to google and type in "PCI express explained" i am sure you get a far better and more detailed anwser than youd ever get on a message board.

Yep.. here it is, first hit on google:
PCI express explained

Detailed and understandable.

[Jnuk]

yeah, i got it already fellas.
thanks for the help i guess.
just thought i'd do a quick post here, maybe some helpful soul would shed some light while i was searching.
next time i'll just go it alone from the get go.

[Elyeh]

Just to Hijack the thread for a minute......
Has anyone used or has one of these PCI express cards?

I going to get an ATI X850 and they come either AGP or PCI Express.

I hate to try new things when that kind of money is on the line
and I've always had AGP cards.

So If you have one of these cards could you let me know what you think, and are they a big differnce over standard AGP?

Thanks....
Now back to your normally scheduled programming

[HavocTM]

PCI Express doubles the bandwidth of an 8x AGP card.

What that means essentially is that it can double your video performance.

If you are buying a new system, be sure and get a PCI-Express system and PCI-Express card because they are taking over.

The cards aren't much more expensive but all the manufacturers are moving over.

Even better now is SLI.  SLI is TWO PCI-express cards 'wired together' to double your video power and speed.


There is a lot more technical detail about the technology but I hope this is a simple answer.

[Elyeh]

Thanks for the reply....
I'm going to replace my ATI 9700 128 AIW
Was down at Best Buy yesterday and saw both the AGP and PCI Express versions. I assumed the PCI Express, meant PCI card.
But then I noticed how much faster it was vs the AGP card.


SO to clarify..... A PCI Express card still goes into the AGP slot correct? Or do I need a open PCI Slot?

As far as the SLI, I used to do that with my old 3DFX card.
It had a "daughter" card that was slaved to the main card.

Amazing how far we have come.

Again thanks

[Schutt]

Need a motherboard that supports PCI express and has an 16x pci express slot for graphic cards (PEG).
Most boards have either AGP or PCI express, so no you can not slot it into an AGP slot, you need a new motherboard.

Graphic cards with PCI express are curently only slightly faster than AGP Cards. No sign of double graphic performance, maybe more future potential. SLI setups currently use HALF bus bandwidth for each card, so its PCI express 8x for each of them.

[HavocTM]

Most importantly you need a PCI Express motherboard.

The PCI Express will not fit AGP slot.

It seems they always get you one way or another.

[Elyeh]

No problem..I'll just get the AGP version

Thanks for the clarification

[HavocTM]

The x850 will rock no matter what version.  

Prepare for warp speed!

[StarOfAfrica2]

Originally posted by HavocTM
PCI Express doubles the bandwidth of an 8x AGP card.

What that means essentially is that it can double your video performance.

If you are buying a new system, be sure and get a PCI-Express system and PCI-Express card because they are taking over.

The cards aren't much more expensive but all the manufacturers are moving over.

Even better now is SLI.  SLI is TWO PCI-express cards 'wired together' to double your video power and speed.


There is a lot more technical detail about the technology but I hope this is a simple answer.

Theoretically only.  In reality, a 16x PCI express doesnt move any more information than an 8x AGP.  SLI isnt that much of a performance gain either, especially considering the cash outlay for two video cards.