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Online Shane

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« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2005, 06:45:06 AM »
you know you're just bolstering the argument.  you're pointing to a stand or a tree here and there (or the primeval forrest that existed before the settlers started clearing stuff.)
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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2005, 07:17:34 AM »
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you know you're just bolstering the argument.  you're pointing to a stand or a tree here and there (or the primeval forrest that existed before the settlers started clearing stuff.)


No, Im pointing to examples. You might want to notice I only highlighted the parts where it said the species "Can easily reach or surpass" and
Southern New England and "in the south and midwest" I'd say covers quite an extencive area
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« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2005, 10:39:49 AM »
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not only that, the rendering isn't totally smooth.

trees are overdone. it's like ah2 maps are covered with primival forrest.

there needs to be some other type of forrest for areas that gv's will never see...


EXACTLY.  I've posted it in several threads.

1. at LEAST thin out the trees.

2. possibly only have the current trees in 'GV ZONES' or something.

3. or even use two diff types of trees.  use the current trees near where gv's have access, and the other "turn off able" trees like in AH1 in all other areas.
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« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2005, 11:07:44 AM »
How about we stop having 200 ft tall trees right off the end of runways at large and medium airfields?  OK, I can see maybe having them near GV bases and possible even small airfields (although, they are paved and improved airfields so you think the little virtual engineers would have cleared the trees), but large and medium airfields should definitely be cleared for at least a thousand feet or so.  Probably would be better to have them at least a thousand yards or better.

There are way to many of these titatium reinforced, kevla -lined, frame-rate killing, über trees.  I love the look of them, but I don't love them enough to see a gazillion of them within a mile of the airfield I am operating out of.

PS:  Please reduce the height of the grass to under 8 feet tall.
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« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2005, 11:53:07 AM »
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No, Im pointing to examples. You might want to notice I only highlighted the parts where it said the species "Can easily reach or surpass" and
Southern New England and "in the south and midwest" I'd say covers quite an extencive area



and all of your examples point to remote/rural (semi)mountainous areas. and even then it's a a scattering of trees amongst the ofrrest, not an etire forrest of behemoths.

as for the sycamore tree, which you inferred being over a large area of midwest/south...  perhaps, but.... "It is found as scattered individuals rather than in pure natural stands. "

while being a country boy is a good thing, even country boys need to hit the books now and then.  :D
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« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2005, 08:01:04 PM »
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and all of your examples point to remote/rural (semi)mountainous areas. and even then it's a a scattering of trees amongst the ofrrest, not an etire forrest of behemoths.

as for the sycamore tree, which you inferred being over a large area of midwest/south...  perhaps, but.... "It is found as scattered individuals rather than in pure natural stands. "

while being a country boy is a good thing, even country boys need to hit the books now and then.  :D


LOL your missing my point entirely.
I was simply using those as examples. If a species of tree can "Easily reach" a given height then its not all that unusual or uncommon for that type of tree to reach that height.

My point is that 100 foot trees are not all that rare.
Im not a country boy (though I am one at heart) but I do like to spend time in the country. I see 100 foot trees all the time. I can leave my house and find a 100 foot tree in less then 5 min. and I dont even live in the country:)

Plus people dont realise just how short a distance 100 feet really is.
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« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2005, 10:05:42 PM »
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I see 100 foot trees all the time. I can leave my house and find a 100 foot tree in less then 5 min. and I dont even live in the country:)


the point really is, you don't see forest upon forest of them. Trees are like any other species, a few dominant surrounded by smaller brethen. trees compete for resources, ya know. and in the picture above, the closest brach to the bottom is a good 30+ feet high... c'mon, and 8ft grass...

scaling is off... as is density.

hopefully they'll eventually be tweaked somewhat.
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« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2005, 02:36:09 PM »
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scaling is off... as is density.


I agree that the trees are too tall. 100+ foot trees are common in my area to, but we are talking about AH here. The tree at 157' shown in the screen shot is not a rare tree, I think most AH trees are the same size, so 157' is too tall for sure. My opinion, trees should be in the 80' to 100' range. The tall grass, no more than 5' but I think 3-4' would be best.

As far as thinning the trees out, I couldn't disagree more. Trees in forest areas grow close together. We still have plenty of open areas in AH that can be used for landing. We do however need to have the trees removed from the ends of runways.

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« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2005, 10:01:39 PM »
I like the trees but also think that they need to be thined out some and the same for the underbrush, underbrush mite be more of a problem to fs then the trees.
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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2005, 12:07:19 PM »
The real problem with some of the trees is the ones planted at the end of the runways.  They are too close for comfort on some fields.  I also think the new trees are killing frame rates for some folks, especially when flying low.  I'm not sure if it's the coding or if it's just the overly large numbers.  And lets not forget the ones you don't see until you are only a few feet away from them, a sure way to auger without intention..

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« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2005, 03:21:54 PM »
Here's another funny observation:

Every notice how far the jungles are away from the towns at an airfield, yet you have 200 foot tall trees right off the end of the runways?  How bout we transplant all those end-of-the-runway trees and put them right against the town?  Just a thought.  Sure doesn't make a lot of sense to have tries ringing the airstrip, yet a hald a mile aware from the town.
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« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2005, 06:55:53 PM »
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Just a thought.  Sure doesn't make a lot of sense to have tries ringing the airstrip, yet a hald a mile aware from the town.


what he said...


but in english.

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« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2005, 08:27:54 AM »
Remember, guys, that's a T-34, not a car.  Imagine a car in that image, and the tree looks even bigger.

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« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2005, 10:36:06 PM »
I used to like trees in the arenas...until they farked up my damn frame rates.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2005, 02:30:30 AM »
Yep, need to do something about the trees.  

Chasing a Spit across an airfield.  Had him in site all the way, both on the deck.  Never lost sight of him but somehow hit a tree while he was at the same alt right in front of me.

Tree was all of a sudden just there.  Rather frustrating to say the least.

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