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Offline Skuzzy

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« on: May 18, 2005, 06:50:07 AM »
I have been perplexed by this combination not yeilding the performance gains seen when using the Audigy 2 with an Intel CPU.
After doing a bit of research (I cannot stand not knowing why things act the way they do), I have narrowed it down to what I think is possbily why.

The Creative drivers are making use of the SSE2 instruction set (when available) for streaming the audio.  On Intel CPU's this appears to be more efficient than on AMD, which could explain why Intel users typically get a better boost in performance than AMD users do.
Next step is to find a way to disable the SSE2 instruction set usage (they do detect it and use it if it is available) and see if it could help AMD users out.

More later....
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2005, 10:25:33 AM »
very cool skuzzy , i happen to be a amd and Auidgy2 user,  good luck in your quest 38

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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2005, 10:37:04 AM »
me too
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let me know if you need me to check something, glad to help
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2005, 11:03:47 AM »
me three

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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2005, 01:27:41 PM »
Me four.

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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2005, 02:39:00 PM »
sry double post
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2005, 02:41:24 PM »
skuzzy arent there other drivers out there made by KX or something . it was some kind of project, and they made there own drivers .  Ill have to look , and see what they do to the drivers , people say they perform better than creative , but ive never tryed them 38

here is the link, dont know if this will even help at all , just throwin it out there

http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/index.php?skip=1

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2005, 02:55:33 PM »
I'm currently using a DFI lanparty (754) with a 3200+ cpu. I've delayed throwing a sound card in the box based on similiar 411. Just doesnt seem to be much bang for the buck with an AMD system. I have a "old" turtlebeach santacruz I could throw in. Overall frame rate is ok but will bog down in hvy low traffic. Am I better off throwing it in or waiting things out till skuzzy works his wonders...

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2005, 03:21:35 PM »
Apparently they have some new beta drivers out aimed at gamers with a speed increase.

Let me know how you get on :)

Ziff Davis Audio Winbench 99 may be useful to test cpu utilisation of different sound cards at different settings, for different drivers.

http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/english.html?/be_mm.html

When I plugged an Audigy 2 into my AMD setup and compared to the onboard sound, negligible difference.
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2005, 11:53:00 AM »
I have a P4 3.0 and went from an SBLive! to an Audigy2 hoping for some FR increase and got nothing. Sound quality is far better with the Audigy, and that alone makes me very happy with it over the SBLive!, but I did not see any FR advantage to it.

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2005, 04:33:24 PM »
problem is  how the driver was compiled  , many time    things are made  to give advantage  based on name not on real   intsructions

 and intel SUX :P     amd 64  is way to go :)

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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2005, 09:14:31 PM »
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I have been perplexed by this combination not yeilding the performance gains seen when using the Audigy 2 with an Intel CPU.
After doing a bit of research (I cannot stand not knowing why things act the way they do), I have narrowed it down to what I think is possbily why.

The Creative drivers are making use of the SSE2 instruction set (when available) for streaming the audio.  On Intel CPU's this appears to be more efficient than on AMD, which could explain why Intel users typically get a better boost in performance than AMD users do.
Next step is to find a way to disable the SSE2 instruction set usage (they do detect it and use it if it is available) and see if it could help AMD users out.

More later....


i think the Audigy also has issues with Nforce4 chipsets.... or is it VIA (again lol)?
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2005, 07:47:26 AM »
This is proving to be an interesting exercise.
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2005, 12:38:31 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2005, 09:02:20 PM »
ahh me 6?