Iraq

[Masherbrum]

The REAL REASON for the US being in the Iraq nation is MUCH CLEARER now.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/05/18/iraq.main/index.html

"snippet"

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A chilling, rambling audio file thought to be from the most-wanted man in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, says religious doctrine justifies the killing of innocent Muslims by insurgents.

The message was posted on several Islamist Web sites Wednesday, the same day a senior U.S. military official said the Jordanian-born leader of al Qaeda in Iraq ordered the recent wave of car bombings.

CNN has been unable to confirm that the voice is that of al-Zarqawi. The tape introduces the speaker as al-Zarqawi, but the speaker does not identify himself.

The voice says in Arabic: "The shedding of Muslim blood ... is allowed in order to avoid the greater evil of disrupting jihad."

The voice says the protection of religion "is more important than protecting lives, honor or wealth."

"God knows that we were careful not to kill Muslims, and we have called off many operations in the past to avoid losses ... but we cannot kill infidels without killing some Muslims. It is unavoidable," he adds.

The speaker defends suicide attacks, saying, "killing of infidels by any method including martyrdom operations has been sanctified by many scholars even if it meant killing innocent Muslims."

"This legality has been agreed upon ... so as not to disrupt jihad," or "holy war," the recording says.  

In Washington, Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, didn't seem to doubt the voice was that of al-Zarqawi, who has a $25 million bounty on his head.

"Talk about a guy who has no moral foundation. It's an absolute outrage," Myers said.

Lt. Gen. John Abizaid, head of the U.S. Army's Central Command, added, "It's the same old thing. He says that it's OK to kill Muslims, and that it's an Islamic duty. And it's incorrect. That's not true."

Abizaid also could not confirm reports about a meeting between al-Zarqawi and his lieutenants in Syria last month, where plans were allegedly laid for the recent spate of Iraqi violence.

He said that while the U.S. military is aware of insurgent activities taking place in Syria, there is no evidence of collusion with the Syrian government.

Myers and Abizaid were on Capitol Hill Wednesday to brief President Bush and senators on several military issues.


This is why the US is in Iraq.  <> Troops
Karaya

[Nash]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
The REAL RESON for the US being in the Iraq nation is MUCH CLEARER now.



This is why the US is in Iraq.  <> Troops
Karaya

I read your compelling introduction to the news story, then I read the news story, and then I read your summary.

And I still don't know where you're going. Care to help me out with it?

[Masherbrum]

Sure.  First statement is Sarcasm.  

Karaya

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Masherbrum

The voice says in Arabic: "The shedding of Muslim blood ... is allowed in order to avoid the greater evil of disrupting jihad."

The voice says the protection of religion "is more important than protecting lives, honor or wealth."

"God knows that we were careful not to kill Muslims, and we have called off many operations in the past to avoid losses ... but we cannot kill infidels without killing some Muslims. It is unavoidable," he adds.

I guess nobody told him they are now killing more muslims then they are "infidels" (US Soldiers)

Or someones giving him the numbers backwards

[Nash]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
Sure.  First statement is Sarcasm.  

Karaya

Alrighty! I think that answers it.

[Airhead]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I guess nobody told him they are now killing more muslims then they are "infidels" (US Soldiers)

Or someones giving him the numbers backwards

LOL No chit- we're knocking those *******s right back into the stone age.

And we've only lost 1600 American lives, so far, so it looks like the end is in sight and our kids will be home by Christmas.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Airhead
LOL No chit- we're knocking those *******s right back into the stone age.

And we've only lost 1600 American lives, so far, so it looks like the end is in sight and our kids will be home by Christmas.

Your name seems to fit. at least in this instance

[Momus--]

That the hardcore extemists have no problem killing their own co-religionists isn't news to anyone with more than a passing knowledge of the subject; it is a fact that this tendancy to kill other muslims considered to be munafiq is one of the main reasons that the political Islamists in places like Algeria and Egypt lost much of their popular support.

Given that there were no Islamists of this persuasion operating in Iraq prior to the invasion, I'm lost as to what the original poster is driving at.

[midnight Target]

All much clearer now!

We went in to get al-Zarqawi.

whew! Thats a load off all of our minds.

[Saintaw]

So, you mean the real aim  (AlZ. dude) was hidden behind silly issues like the ones initialy brought up? (WMD). Wow that sure was a smart move!

[JBA]

What do you expect from the  "religion" of peace

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/05/19/why_islam_is_disrespected/



No one recalled, for example, that American Catholics lashed out in violent rampages in 1989, after photographer Andres Serrano's ''Piss Christ" -- a photograph of a crucifix submerged in urine -- was included in an exhibition subsidized by the National Endowment for the Arts. Or that they rioted in 1992 when singer Sinead O'Connor, appearing on ''Saturday Night Live," ripped up a photograph of Pope John Paul II.

There was no reminder that Jewish communities erupted in lethal violence in 2000, after Arabs demolished Joseph's Tomb, torching the ancient shrine and murdering a young rabbi who tried to save a Torah. And nobody noted that Buddhists went on a killing spree in 2001 in response to the destruction of two priceless, 1,500-year-old statues of Buddha by the Taliban government in Afghanistan.

Of course, there was a good reason all these bloody protests went unremembered in the coverage of the Newsweek affair: They never occurred.

Christians, Jews, and Buddhists don't lash out in homicidal rage when their religion is insulted. They don't call for holy war and riot in the streets. It would be unthinkable for a mainstream priest, rabbi, or lama to demand that a blasphemer be slain. But when Reuters reported what Mohammad Hanif, the imam of a Muslim seminary in Pakistan, said about the alleged Koran-flushers -- ''They should be hung. They should be killed in public so that no one can dare to insult Islam and its sacred symbols" -- was any reader surprised?

………..But what disgraces Islam above all is the vast majority of the planet's Muslims saying nothing and doing nothing about the jihadist cancer eating away at their religion. It is Free Muslims Against Terrorism, a pro-democracy organization, calling on Muslims and Middle Easterners to ''converge on our nation's capital for a rally against terrorism" -- and having only 50 people show up.
Yes, Islam is disrespected. That will only change when throngs of passionate Muslims show up for rallies against terrorism, and when rabble-rousers trying to gin up a riot over a defiled Koran can't get the time of day……

[Yeager]

jba is on it

[AWMac]

JBA

Good Post!!!

JBA '08