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Offline Fongman

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« on: May 27, 2005, 10:01:24 PM »

Offline 1K3

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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2005, 10:35:17 PM »
STOP SHOWCASING CHEAP CHINESE PRODUCTS!!!

wtg:cool:

btw are u sure that's not another direct copy of Admiral Khuznetzov Class carrier?

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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2005, 10:44:47 PM »
I like how the Russian navy would put offensive weapons on everything they made, including their psuedo-CV's.

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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2005, 10:50:20 PM »
(off topic)

I think this ("Ekranoplan") would've been the best Soviet/Russian weapons system ever tested, but the politburo fugged up the development and its funding stopped when one of the last (and only 1 sample) was destroyed.

With a ship like this... who needs cargo planes? :D


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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2005, 01:29:47 AM »
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STOP SHOWCASING CHEAP CHINESE PRODUCTS!!!
 

by the way, it's a funny carrier. :D i can't see any "runway" on it.

Will it go to Japan to fight if the war happens?

Japs navy is too strong to China......

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2005, 04:03:25 AM »
OK, not to mark the overly obvious new cold war between the US and Chinese - but lets state the obvious.

1 Carrier does not a Navy make.

End lecture. i'm tired and my feet are cold.

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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2005, 10:18:15 AM »
Hey Wolf, how's the Golf out at Post-Grad?

As I posted in the other thread, I'm pretty sure that the ship in the Pictures is the Varyag, the 2nd "Ship of a thousand names" (Tblisi, Brezhnev, Kuznetsov, pick your favorite).

If so, the threat would be real enough for our Interests in Asia. No, they aren't going to sortie and Sink the Kitty Hawk Battle Group tomorrow. But they certainly make things sticky for Japan and Taiwan.

If they could conduct offensive operations off the East coast of Taiwan It would certainly increase the complexity of the Taiwanese defense. Resources that would normally be used to repell the attack from the West would have to be turned about to find and sink the Varyag.

In a conflict over the Spratly Islands, China would have a near insurmountable advantage if they could bring significant air power to the region. I think that with a single CVBG the Chinese could probably brush aside the Philippines and Vietnamese claims.  

The question then becomes a political one: How do they divide out the US from taking too active a role in the defense of Taiwan and our other interests in the region. I have no idea how they would plan to do this.

What are you doing out at Post-Grad anyhow?


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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2005, 10:51:35 AM »
Interesting take Sikboy, my bet is that that Chinese Carrier sees the bottom minutes after any opening round of hostilities by a shadowing US LA class sub.
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2005, 10:52:40 AM »
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Interesting take Sikboy, my bet is that that Chinese Carrier sees the bottom minutes after any opening round of hostilities by a shadowing US LA class sub.


Not true Bodhi...

By the time it would be operational it'll be being shadowed by a Virginia class sub :p

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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2005, 01:36:30 PM »
Here is where i make a good joke about an extra large takeout order

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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2005, 02:25:05 PM »
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Hey Wolf, how's the Golf out at Post-Grad?

As I posted in the other thread, I'm pretty sure that the ship in the Pictures is the Varyag, the 2nd "Ship of a thousand names" (Tblisi, Brezhnev, Kuznetsov, pick your favorite).

If so, the threat would be real enough for our Interests in Asia. No, they aren't going to sortie and Sink the Kitty Hawk Battle Group tomorrow. But they certainly make things sticky for Japan and Taiwan.

If they could conduct offensive operations off the East coast of Taiwan It would certainly increase the complexity of the Taiwanese defense. Resources that would normally be used to repell the attack from the West would have to be turned about to find and sink the Varyag.

In a conflict over the Spratly Islands, China would have a near insurmountable advantage if they could bring significant air power to the region. I think that with a single CVBG the Chinese could probably brush aside the Philippines and Vietnamese claims.  

The question then becomes a political one: How do they divide out the US from taking too active a role in the defense of Taiwan and our other interests in the region. I have no idea how they would plan to do this.

What are you doing out at Post-Grad anyhow?


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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2005, 02:43:53 PM »
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Not into golf as much as paintball. But I have gone to the driving range on a few occasions. Photovoltaic power conversion and network as singular stuff associated with JV2020.

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I was just having lunch with one of my JAG sponsors yesterday, who spent a couple of years there as a legal advisor.

I was out at DLI during 92-93. We used to play paintball out at Fort Ord before they closed it down. Had a lot of fun in Monterey, would love to get back there sometime.

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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2005, 05:33:54 PM »
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Teaching or learning?

I was just having lunch with one of my JAG sponsors yesterday, who spent a couple of years there as a legal advisor.

I was out at DLI during 92-93. We used to play paintball out at Fort Ord before they closed it down. Had a lot of fun in Monterey, would love to get back there sometime.

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Company I work for is under a CREDA with the GSBPP, so we're agents of the Navy on 1 hand, and Civi on the other. But most of us have military backgrounds - mine being USMC, founders Navy, CEO DARPA and darkworld, etc. So neither teaching nor learning in the formal sense, but developing new stuff in conjunction with NPS.

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