what does the nanny state cost us...

[lazs2]

You are a prince arlo.   I wish everyone felt about it as you do.   Very reaonable attitude...

When I did smoke I smoked 3 packs of non filter camels a day.   No ill affects except a constant "throat clearing" and cigg stink on me and everything I owned.  

Some people are pretty poor specimens and should protect every aspect of their life tho... mold can kill em... cat fur will hospitalize em... they choke to death on peanut butter...  They can use every safety device known to man for all I care but just leave me out of it.

As for your friend... I believe you but...  How much did he cost us?  It was his decision right?   He coulda ended up the same or worse from near drowning in a public pool.

lazs

[Arlo]

Wouldn't call him a "friend", per say. But yeah, the odds were against him NOT seriously hurting himself or dying as a result of his own stupidity on a daily basis. What can I say, Navy standards were pretty low then. And before you say it ... I'm pretty sure he made me look good.

I'm all for safety of the kids. But I miss alot of things that aren't doable without citation now, myself. I just prefer a helmet on a bike. If I had my druthers, though, it wouldn't be a DOT one but a re-wired flight helmet circa 1970s. I *am* a hopeless geek.

[Sixpence]

I agree with lazs to a point, but I also see another side of the story. The emt and others who respond to the scene of an accident. And you can't compare a car to a cycle, kind of silly. We would get the the New Hampshire border and take off our helmets, good times

[TheDudeDVant]

Last time I crashed my bike my helmet broke my collar bone..  I could say 'damn helmet' or something but it prolly saved my life..

But in the end it should be choice.. Not law..  Thats the insurance companies that rule the world influencing our polititians..