Bus Driver Discipline

[mosgood]

Here in Ohio, I've heard about kids using the "system" against the parents as well.  It's a law that you can't use anything other then your hand to strike your kid.  I've known several single mothers with 11yr  to 13 yr old kids that just dont have the strength to make a serious impression just with their bare hand.  I've actually known a mother that had a kid "inform" on her to his school because she used a belt.  Of course, the end result for the kid could have ended up worse and they would have taken him away from her and stuck him in a foster home.

[slimm50]

Originally posted by rpm
As a matter of fact, it reminds me of a field trip we took when I was a freshman. I was always a bit of a smartass, and that day I was in rare form. When we arrived at the park we were to have lunch at the principal called me over to the bus and started a conversation. Once I was distracted I was blindside tackled from behind by another teacher running at full speed and was thoroughly beaten, not with a paddle but with a fist. I still have the ruptured disc to remind me today what happens when you are a smartass to an authority figure. Nothing was ever said or done to the principal or teacher because I deserved what happened because I was out of line. This was circa 1975.

Day-umm...what'd you do?

[Hawklore]

the confrontation as he was moving towards the back of the bus up front was him most likely moving a backpack..

[midnight Target]

Shut up! Sit Down!!!

[Sandman]

Originally posted by rpm
As a matter of fact, it reminds me of a field trip we took when I was a freshman. I was always a bit of a smartass, and that day I was in rare form. When we arrived at the park we were to have lunch at the principal called me over to the bus and started a conversation. Once I was distracted I was blindside tackled from behind by another teacher running at full speed and was thoroughly beaten, not with a paddle but with a fist. I still have the ruptured disc to remind me today what happens when you are a smartass to an authority figure. Nothing was ever said or done to the principal or teacher because I deserved what happened because I was out of line. This was circa 1975.

Bull****. There is nothing that could come out of your smartass mouth that warrants a ruptured disc. That teacher committed a crime.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by sling322
Easy to say, but impossible to do.  They wont even let schools paddle kids anymore.  Its ridiculous.  

Almost as stupid as parents nowadays putting kids in "timeout."  What is that ****?  When I was a kid and I did something stupid or wrong I got a whupping or grounded and I damn sure learned my lesson.  It only had to happen once or twice before I figured out how to act and that my parents meant business.  Too many parents now let their kids run all over them and then try to place the blame for lack of discipline on the schools or teachers or society in general.  Take a little responsibility and quit making excuses for your kid being a moron.

If you think your kids will respect you if you beat them, go ahead, but I think you'll find that corporal punishment is not the missing ingredient for a well behaved and disciplined child. It's not that simple.

[rpm]

I had a pretty good lip on me back in the days before I joined the military. I really don't recall what I said or did that particular day. I think it was more of a cumulative effect.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by rpm
I had a pretty good lip on me back in the days before I joined the military. I really don't recall what I said or did that particular day. I think it was more of a cumulative effect.

Whatever it was, that teacher lost control.

[NUTTZ]

I'm sure there was other things that led up to the incident. The bus driver is responceble for ALL the passengers safety. I'm sure there were safety issues for the OTHER passengers.

I also heard on the news the driver was charged with simple assualt, while the kid was charged with a feloney aggrevated assault.

Tuff call if i was in the bus drivers shoes, and a few were jepordizing the safety of the rest.


Althou, If i was the kid and my dad was the bus driver, I KNOW how that would of ended. Without a call to the sheriff's also.

NUTTZ

[Slurpee]

Are you guys sure thats a "school bus". Cuz ive watchd it afew times and it looks alot like one of the Juvenile Facility type buses. That and the Uniform the guys wearing (can anyone make out what it says on the front of his shirt. Another thing, hes wearing a name tag. Might be that state or something but none of the bus drivers here have name tags and they wear just regular everyday clothes.

Another thing, usually the schools dont have deauptys, but they have just regular police officers. At the Juvenile places they have sheriffs and deauptys as well as officers.

The way all those kids are acting that way, makes alot more since to me. I see there is a girl there and some other younger kids. But in the Juvenile Detention centers they have all ages etc.

Just a thought, not sure but i just wanted to put that out there.

I agree, someone needs to show that punk exactly how big he really is.

[sling322]

Originally posted by Sandman
If you think your kids will respect you if you beat them, go ahead, but I think you'll find that corporal punishment is not the missing ingredient for a well behaved and disciplined child. It's not that simple.

Nobody said anything about beating them....but a well timed spanking can do wonders.  I was only spanked twice as a kid for stuff that I can actually remember thinking that if I got caught I was in big trouble, but I darn sure learned the lesson and didnt screw up like that anymore.  Most of the time, a grounding worked just as well.  But I always knew that if I messed up bad enough or talked back the way I see some kids do today then the belt was waiting for me or even worse the long wait in my room after mom said, "wait til your father gets home."  I hated that wait and most of the time that was enough of a deterrent to keep me from screwing up again.

[StarOfAfrica2]

Originally posted by Slurpee
Are you guys sure thats a "school bus". Cuz ive watchd it afew times and it looks alot like one of the Juvenile Facility type buses. That and the Uniform the guys wearing (can anyone make out what it says on the front of his shirt. Another thing, hes wearing a name tag. Might be that state or something but none of the bus drivers here have name tags and they wear just regular everyday clothes.

Another thing, usually the schools dont have deauptys, but they have just regular police officers. At the Juvenile places they have sheriffs and deauptys as well as officers.

The way all those kids are acting that way, makes alot more since to me. I see there is a girl there and some other younger kids. But in the Juvenile Detention centers they have all ages etc.

Just a thought, not sure but i just wanted to put that out there.

I agree, someone needs to show that punk exactly how big he really is.

Some contract bus services use uniforms for their drivers, and everyone is big on the "nametag" thing these days, to provide accountability.  No "Mr. Anonymous".

[Yeager]

Let parants do as they will.  assuming there are parents.

[midnight Target]

Just watched that for the first time...

That bus driver is an idiot. The kids are out of control and deserve punishment, but his reactions are downright stupid.

[rpm]

Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Some contract bus services use uniforms for their drivers, and everyone is big on the "nametag" thing these days, to provide accountability.  No "Mr. Anonymous".

You beat me to it. The company that runs for most of the local schools here called "Durham Transportation" has uniforms that look a lot like the one the driver is wearing. None of the schools here have a private police force, they all use the County Sheriff's office.