Author Topic: Bus Driver Discipline (Read 1107 times)

Terror · « **on:** May 24, 2005, 08:44:04 PM »

http://home.centurytel.net/ctr88509/bus_video.wmv (Fixed Link... Work Safe now)

I doubt I would have been able to restrain myself as much as the driver did. If I saw that video and it was my kid, I would apologize to the driver and my kid would get a huge bruisin from his father. And everybit of luxury the kid has would be gone for months.

Anyone have any more information on this?

Terror

LePaul · « **Reply #1 on:** May 24, 2005, 08:46:06 PM »

Not a work safe link. Bunch of topless pics.

Hangtime · « **Reply #2 on:** May 24, 2005, 08:57:24 PM »

The sickness of our society.. in a 25 second video clip.

Disgusting. Unruly disrespectful kids. Arrogant out of control bus driver. Who to blame? TV? Parents? Teachers? Bus Company?

The driver was outta line.. he shoulda just had the kids hauled off by the deputies and submitted the tape to the school authorities. The moment he raised his hand to the disgusting little donutwoods they won. He lost.

Sad.. truly sad.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #3 on:** May 24, 2005, 08:58:49 PM »

"Yes, Mr. Diablo? This is the school principal here."

"Yes, how are you?"

"Fine, thank you. We have a situation here regarding you son, Diablo, jr."

"OH, is he ok?"

"Well, he's here in my office now but he acted very badly on the bus to school. He refused to listen to the driver's orders to sit down in his seat and face forward."

"Ok."

"The driver asked repeatedly, asking him to comply with his wishes but it seems your son refused to listen to the driver."

"Oh, he did did he? What happened?"

"The driver became irrate and handled your son severly. I am afraid he won't be able to sit comfortably for a long time."

"Good. If this happens again you have my full permission to treat him as you see fit. Disrespect of authority is something I will not tolerate."

"Thank you Mr. Diablo, have a nice day."

"You too, sir."

This is what would have happened if I had been the little brat that back-talked the driver. My dad always told my principal to treat me in direct proportion to which I misbehaved. Very rare these days becuase "jr" never does anything bad, he's such a little angel.

Terror · « **Reply #4 on:** May 24, 2005, 09:07:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
The sickness of our society.. in a 25 second video clip.

Disgusting. Unruly disrespectful kids. Arrogant out of control bus driver. Who to blame? TV? Parents? Teachers? Bus Company?

The driver was outta line.. he shoulda just had the kids hauled off by the deputies and submitted the tape to the school authorities. The moment he raised his hand to the disgusting little donutwoods they won. He lost.

Sad.. truly sad.

When the got out of his seat and said *mofo*, I could see where the driver could interpret that as an aggressive move if not a direct attack... I think a defensive response like that would not be unexpected. Then the kid started fighting back and things escalated...

Terror

hawker238 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 24, 2005, 09:13:23 PM »

He messed that little bastard up!

Hangtime · « **Reply #6 on:** May 24, 2005, 09:17:07 PM »

Same in my day Diablo.. but I gotta tell yah I'd have a real hard time keepin my cool if somebody handed me film of my kid bein beat on by a bus driver. Thats MY job... not a responsibility I'll gladly hand over to anybody else.

I expect the school authorities and their agents to act rationally when they got my kid.. violence on my kid administered without my direct consent? Nope.

On the other hand, if that was my kid, after I'd finished informing the administration in detail how furious I was for the violence upon my child, I would soundly beat the crap outta my kid..

It's because these lil brats have gotten away with defiance and foul mouthed abuse of their administrators without any fear of repercussions from home that they pull it to begin with.

Summary.. the driver should be fired. The kid needed his bellybutton whipped 6 years earlier at the first sign of disrespect to a school agent or administrator.. by his parents. Now the lil bastard is what 13, 14? With a 'tude? Too late fer him I suspect; but an bellybutton whippin is still warranted.

SunTracker · « **Reply #7 on:** May 24, 2005, 09:24:06 PM »

I like when the kid tells the bus driver to watch his mouth.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #8 on:** May 24, 2005, 09:36:19 PM »

as a parent I'd be mortified. The bus drivers only mistake is that he "appears" to make the first move. Verbal threats from a teenager really arnent a reason to put your hands on them.

IMHO an arm bar would have been better than grabbing him by the neck. It appears less aggressive and more "restraining"

DiabloTX · « **Reply #9 on:** May 24, 2005, 09:42:32 PM »

Hang, I agree with ya but I can't agree with keeping the admin's hands tied when it comes to discipline. It's natural to get angry when someone else disciplines your kid but, think about it, you aren't there. Theses kids, like it or not, were looking to provoke the driver. If you provoke a lion, what do you get? These kids are lucky that they didn't ride on my bus. We had this driver that scared the crap outta us. Just by looking at us we would STFU very quickly. These kids nowadays don't care, they know they can hide behine rules, "Go ahead and hit me! You'd go to jail!!!" or "My single mother of 5 with 5 different daddies will sue your ass!!!" The dismissal of chorporeal *edit-damn, how do you spell that?* punishment has done nothing but make brats of most of the kids now.

Hangtime · « **Reply #10 on:** May 24, 2005, 10:03:34 PM »

It's a tuff one.. but the first ball was dropped by the parents.

"Daddy, the bus driver was a salamander, he cursed at me!"

My dad woulda absolutely wigged out at that crap, his answer woulda been "So what did YOU do to get him mad at you?. How many times have I told you to shut up, sit down, pay attention and do what you are told at school or on the bus?"

And he woulda followed up with the school, and I woulda been in deep watermelon if the story didn't check out. But that's 1960 America.. not 2005 America. In 1960 America, the teacher or bus driver woulda sent me to the principal, the principal would call home & discuss it with my parnents and then I woulda gotten a swat with a great big oak 'paddle' that woulda made my backside smart for a coupla days. Then when I got home, I woulda been grounded and had to sit in my room till Dad got home and THEN gotten another beatin with a belt.

Net result, when a teacher or authority figure said 'shut up, sit down and face forward', I woulda. I didn't have to worry about the bus driver smackin the crap outta me.. the principal and my Dad had that job.

Nowdays, the parents simply side with the kid, the kid learns to lie and twist the truth and parents just assume the school is staffed by incompetents. (in this situation, that's the case; that bus driver was outta line)

Short answer.. childerns attitudes towards adults and authority figures are shaped in the home, AND at school. By the time I was 10 I certainly understood that mouthing off had a severe penalty.. why haven't these kids learned that? Cause mommy and daddy dropped the ball; at home first, and with the school second. Mommy and Daddy elect the school board, the school board is responsible for making sure the school deals with our kids in a way that's appropriate and rational.

The systems busted, and the breakdown starts in the home.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #11 on:** May 24, 2005, 10:09:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
It's a tuff one.. but the first ball was dropped by the parents.

"Daddy, the bus driver was a salamander, he cursed at me!"

My dad woulda absolutely wigged out at that crap, his answer woulda been "So what did YOU do to get him mad at you?. How many times have I told you to shut up, sit down, pay attention and do what you are told at school or on the bus?"

And he woulda followed up with the school, and I woulda been in deep watermelon if the story didn't check out. But that's 1960 America.. not 2005 America. In 1960 America, the teacher or bus driver woulda sent me to the principal, the principal would call home & discuss it with my parnents and then I woulda gotten a swat with a great big oak 'paddle' that woulda made my backside smart for a coupla days. Then when I got home, I woulda been grounded and had to sit in my room till Dad got home and THEN gotten another beatin with a belt.

Net result, when a teacher or authority figure said 'shut up, sit down and face forward', I woulda. I didn't have to worry about the bus driver smackin the crap outta me.. the principal and my Dad had that job.

Nowdays, the parents simply side with the kid, the kid learns to lie and twist the truth and parents just assume the school is staffed by incompetents. (in this situation, that's the case; that bus driver was outta line)

Short answer.. childerns attitudes towards adults and authority figures are shaped in the home, AND at school. By the time I was 10 I certainly understood that mouthing off had a severe penalty.. why haven't these kids learned that? Cause mommy and daddy dropped the ball; at home first, and with the school second. Mommy and Daddy elect the school board, the school board is responsible for making sure the school deals with our kids in a way that's appropriate and rational.

The systems busted, and the breakdown starts in the home.

As usual, very well said.

Hawklore · « **Reply #12 on:** May 24, 2005, 10:09:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime

The driver was outta line.. he shoulda just had the kids hauled off by the deputies and submitted the tape to the school authorities. The moment he raised his hand to the disgusting little donutwoods they won. He lost.

Sad.. truly sad.

agreed..

Now if the kid had gotten in his face first..then it'd be more reasonable..

But it looks to be a vietnam vet.. and well.. You don't call a vet a mother ****er..

Now for maybe the busdrivers side of the story -devils advocate-

He felt threatend with someone behind him, tried to restrain the kid, and the kid fought back.. etc..

Hangtime · « **Reply #13 on:** May 24, 2005, 10:58:30 PM »

The bus driver shoulda stayed in his seat, smiled like a shark and invitied the salamander to sit down and fasten his belt.

When the pinhead refused, he shoulda placed that radio call to the sheriff and had the kid removed from the bus. THEN he shoulda smiled like a shark again and asked politely if anybody else wanted a ride in a police car..

Then he shoulda gone to the principal with the tape and said 'this kid's trouble, don't trust him behind me when I'm driving. Get him another way to school or get me an apology from him and his parents; together.'

Takes a village. The systems broke.

sling322 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 24, 2005, 11:16:39 PM »

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Originally posted by DiabloTX
[B"Good. If this happens again you have my full permission to treat him as you see fit. Disrespect of authority is something I will not tolerate."

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Easy to say, but impossible to do. They wont even let schools paddle kids anymore. Its ridiculous.

Almost as stupid as parents nowadays putting kids in "timeout." What is that ****? When I was a kid and I did something stupid or wrong I got a whupping or grounded and I damn sure learned my lesson. It only had to happen once or twice before I figured out how to act and that my parents meant business. Too many parents now let their kids run all over them and then try to place the blame for lack of discipline on the schools or teachers or society in general. Take a little responsibility and quit making excuses for your kid being a moron.