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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #150 on: May 29, 2005, 11:59:33 PM »
De-railing and arguments aside, there is evidence that *something* can causing planes to stall out in one server more than another. Whether it's common or not, I don't know. Fairly rare, if I'm the only HTH host that regularly gets this problem (there was another host I don't remember, not a regular, that I encountered this problem with).

Do I think people go overboard a little with the theories? Sure! Do I think the symptoms are being glossed over by everyone else? Yes!. None of y'all is right. But don't block out something because you're biased about the source.

Keep it civil, keep it friendly, keep an open mind, and things get done.

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« Reply #151 on: May 30, 2005, 12:06:14 PM »
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But I thought posts like this were always my fault :eek:


OK, I guess it wasnt ALL your fault. :)
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« Reply #152 on: May 30, 2005, 12:20:04 PM »
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De-railing and arguments aside, there is evidence that *something* can causing planes to stall out in one server more than another. Whether it's common or not, I don't know. Fairly rare, if I'm the only HTH host that regularly gets this problem (there was another host I don't remember, not a regular, that I encountered this problem with).

Do I think people go overboard a little with the theories? Sure! Do I think the symptoms are being glossed over by everyone else? Yes!. None of y'all is right. But don't block out something because you're biased about the source.

Keep it civil, keep it friendly, keep an open mind, and things get done.

Peace.


I think the fuel burn was a darn good idea to check out.  I know from experience and experimenting recently that even changing the order the fuel tanks feed makes a difference in handling and stalls, let alone a slower fuel burn rate.
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« Reply #153 on: May 30, 2005, 06:12:48 PM »
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De-railing and arguments aside, there is evidence that *something* can causing planes to stall out in one server more than another. Whether it's common or not, I don't know. Fairly rare, if I'm the only HTH host that regularly gets this problem (there was another host I don't remember, not a regular, that I encountered this problem with).

Do I think people go overboard a little with the theories? Sure! Do I think the symptoms are being glossed over by everyone else? Yes!. None of y'all is right. But don't block out something because you're biased about the source.

Keep it civil, keep it friendly, keep an open mind, and things get done.

Peace.



  The one and only FM issue the CT STaff was responsible for was the stall limiter issue. Im not glossing over a thing. If there is other issues that can be PROVEN  , then that needs to be taken to HTC via email or phone calls.

 I wouldnt call some one who claims CT Staffers "adjust the settings" as some sort of personal attack against them overboard. Id call them out of line and a liar. I understand some of you wouldnt respond to things like that and thats fine. Thats not me. Im not going to sit here and take abuse and lies from these people. Whether its right or wrong Im not going to do it. If HTC see's it different and shows me the door, then Im fine with that. But dont attack me and think Ill take it.
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« Reply #154 on: May 30, 2005, 06:58:37 PM »
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The one and only FM issue the CT STaff was responsible for was the stall limiter issue. Im not glossing over a thing. If there is other issues that can be PROVEN  , then that needs to be taken to HTC via email or phone calls.

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I'm not talking about changing the FM. I'm talking about some problem with the compatibility of a computer trying to run that FM. I said I know for a fact it's not a server setting/variable (as I have searched repeatedly for one, there are limited variables). I've been saying that there is a problem with how an individual copy of AH *runs* the FM it's got in its code.

This, as I have said, I have experienced repeatedly. Others have experienced it in my HTH room as well (Kilme, Raptor, to name a couple) and I have experienced (rarely) in other HTH rooms.

That's not to be snubbed. You accept HT's word that there are no variables (as do I). And yet when I make a similar claim and back up with examples, names, specific descriptions, ideas of what I think might be the problem, am I any less credible? To me, it *is* a proven fact that some times you stall out uncontrollably in level flight, as I have experienced it and others have complained to me about my HTH room. It's not fuel-burn related. It's computer-related, methinks. I don't have all the details.
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« Reply #155 on: May 30, 2005, 08:25:39 PM »
I understand what you're saying and respect your approach:aok
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« Reply #156 on: May 31, 2005, 03:20:05 AM »
So did anyone other than me play with the fuel settings for burn rate all weekend long to find any sort of correlation or did all that happen in here was someone bashing someone else? Geez lets move along.

The results I have are that it pretty much doesn't matter what the burn rate is. I am more inclined to believe Krusty now than anything. Can I prove it? Nope but I am sure going to try over the next few weeks.
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« Reply #157 on: May 31, 2005, 05:57:09 AM »
I'm getting turned on again!

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« Reply #158 on: May 31, 2005, 06:55:32 AM »
in order to please eskimo let's open this can again.

in the FW190s and in the A6Ms on certain maps any control imput at any speed causes the right wing to dip and the plane to break in a harsh stall to the right.  it happens in no other arena, only the CT.  flame away.
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« Reply #159 on: May 31, 2005, 07:07:14 AM »
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in the FW190s and in the A6Ms on certain maps any control imput at any speed causes the right wing to dip and the plane to break in a harsh stall to the right.  it happens in no other arena, only the CT.  flame away.


Why not tell us the exact maps and areas where this has happened to you so we can test it for ourselves the next time the map comes into rotation?

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« Reply #160 on: May 31, 2005, 07:08:00 AM »
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in order to please eskimo let's open this can again.

in the FW190s and in the A6Ms on certain maps any control imput at any speed causes the right wing to dip and the plane to break in a harsh stall to the right.  it happens in no other arena, only the CT.  flame away.




Storch

If this was happening to me I would be looking at my stick setup, and or spiking pots.  It has to be a problem specific to your computer/set-up , and  it's not going to be normal computer hardware / operating system related. The only possibility I can think of is something specific to your flight control hardware. A spiking rudder pot or spiking joystick  pot perhaps could cause those symptoms.

It just doesn't make any sense that it would be coad-related within the game , it's too intermittent , it's not connection/internet related, which basically leaves hardware , and the only hardware issue that could cause that sort of thing is the controller.
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« Reply #161 on: May 31, 2005, 07:18:35 AM »
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Storch

If this was happening to me I would be looking at my stick setup, and or spiking pots.  It has to be a problem specific to your computer/set-up , and  it's not going to be normal computer hardware / operating system related. The only possibility I can think of is something specific to your flight control hardware. A spiking rudder pot or spiking joystick  pot perhaps could cause those symptoms.

It just doesn't make any sense that it would be coad-related within the game , it's too intermittent , it's not connection/internet related, which basically leaves hardware , and the only hardware issue that could cause that sort of thing is the controller.


fair enough, but how come never in another arena?  If I ever decide to return to the CT I'll open up my brand new still in the box never been used back up X45 to eliminate the joystick possibilty.

among other things I work on access control systems and the most vexxing problems are intermittent ones, sometimes you just never can solve them.
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« Reply #162 on: May 31, 2005, 08:03:39 AM »
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in order to please eskimo let's open this can again.

in the FW190s and in the A6Ms on certain maps any control imput at any speed causes the right wing to dip and the plane to break in a harsh stall to the right.  it happens in no other arena, only the CT.  flame away.


do you drink heavier while flying with some map / plane combos than others?

just trying to bring to light, all the possible causes :)
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« Reply #163 on: May 31, 2005, 08:40:18 AM »
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Originally posted by storch
in order to please eskimo let's open this can again.

in the FW190s and in the A6Ms on certain maps any control imput at any speed causes the right wing to dip and the plane to break in a harsh stall to the right.  it happens in no other arena, only the CT.  flame away.


Check also if you're not too tired.
Each time I've this kind of trouble it's because I was overcontroling and I had more red than white in my eyes :D
(doesn't prevent me to fly I'm too dweeb to stop :p)
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« Reply #164 on: May 31, 2005, 09:13:03 AM »
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do you drink heavier while flying with some map / plane combos than others?

just trying to bring to light, all the possible causes :)


Try some meds from you family doctor.  They make the FMs do wierd things!
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