Driving on the left-hand side of the road

[lazs2]

nashwan... the worlds largest car manufactrurer drives on the right (the U.S.)  we still make more cars here than japan does.   But...

japan does not make motorcycles that have shifters on the wrong side.

gixer... you know as much about revolvers as you know about the U.S.   thanks for trying to pander to me tho..

The reason that revolvers rotate the way they do has nothing to do with choice.  Some rotate clockwise and some counterclockwise... the reason for either is mechanical.  Depending on how you build your lockwork...  the "hand" (cylinder turning thingie) will have to be on one side of the bolt (center of the cylinder) or the other.   viewed from the back...  if the hand is on the right of the bolt... the cyl will rotate counterclockwise.. If it is on the left it will rotate clockwise.

lazs

[Nashwan]

Japan has been producing more cars han the US for a decade or more. (And it's now about 2 to 1)

The US still has a lead when you count in commercial vehicles.

The reason that revolvers rotate the way they do has nothing to do with choice. Some rotate clockwise and some counterclockwise... the reason for either is mechanical. Depending on how you build your lockwork... the "hand" (cylinder turning thingie) will have to be on one side of the bolt (center of the cylinder) or the other. viewed from the back... if the hand is on the right of the bolt... the cyl will rotate counterclockwise.. If it is on the left it will rotate clockwise.

Which of course means the manufacturer has the choice which side to put the hand.

[lazs2]

Nooo... it means that different types of lockworks (there are patents) need to function differently.   If your sideplate if on the right then the lockwork has to function a certain way same for the bottom etc.  it is a matter of function.

Waht you are trying to equate it to is a tiny little island with a trickle of bad motorcycles whose only purpose in putting the shifter on the right is contrarryness... there is no funtional reason.  It would be just as easy....easier.... to do it right.

A good revolver example would be the 1873 Colt single action..  the ejector is on the wrong side of the gun for right handed people.   It has never changed...

The U.S. produces the most vehicles for driving on the roads... that is what we are taliking about right?

lazs

[Curval]

Normally I would argue any point such as this with lazs...but riding my little motorcycle everyday to work makes me want to respond.

Lazs...are you saying the shift on these bikes is on the right side and the brake is on the left?  That is bizarre....and freaking dangerous.  I must concur with Senior Lazs....it is WRONG.  

[lazs2]

no curval... shift is on the right and rear brake is on the left.

It is dangerous to have it that way.. if you are used to the majority of bikes you will allmost allways hit the shifter hard in a panic stop and the real wheel will probly lock.   It could easily (and has) cause an accident that is completely avoidable by standarizing.

It is much like changing the order of the clutch and bhrake pedal in a car.   there is no reason and it causes a dangerous situation.

lazs

[Curval]

Originally posted by lazs2
no curval... shift is on the right and rear brake is on the left.

It is dangerous to have it that way.. if you are used to the majority of bikes you will allmost allways hit the shifter hard in a panic stop and the real wheel will probly lock.   It could easily (and has) cause an accident that is completely avoidable by standarizing.

It is much like changing the order of the clutch and bhrake pedal in a car.   there is no reason and it causes a dangerous situation.

lazs

This is what I said:

Lazs...are you saying the shift on these bikes is on the right side and the brake is on the left?

Why no?  That is what I said.  I'm confused.



IMHO the shift SHOULD be on the left side and the rear brake on the right.  If it was reversed I would be in an accident for sure...exactly how you describe.

[beet1e]

I've never driven two wheeled motorised vehicles, but I've seen others, and the gear pedal seems to be on the left, and the rear brake on the right. Front brake is the right hand lever and clutch is the left hand lever. Is that how it is in the US?

[lazs2]

oops... so you did curval.   I thought you said that they were both on the right.

beet..  yes.   most bikes (all but brit ones) have the shift on the left and the brake on the right.

lazs

[Gixer]

Originally posted by lazs2


gixer... you know as much about revolvers as you know about the U.S.   thanks for trying to pander to me tho..

Really? That makes me quite smart then on both counts.

What makes you think I don't know anything about revolvers or any other type of firearm? I'd guess I've probably spent more time on the range with automatic and heavy weapons then you. Since I'm guessing only one of us has done military service.


...-Gixer

[lazs2]

and that makes you an expert on revolver how?

I have no problem conceding that you have fired more heavy weapons and full autos than me.   Bet I have fired one more recently than you tho.  Not that it matters.   shooting them a few times doesn't make you an expert or even knowlegeable.

You proved you don't know squat about revolvers allready.... regardless of wheather you have ever fired one or not.

lazs

[Gixer]

Originally posted by lazs2
You proved you don't know squat about revolvers allready.... regardless of wheather you have ever fired one or not.

lazs

You know Lazs I only used the revolver example as just that, a bit of a light humoured example that would suit you. But when it comes to guns your so defensive about them that you missed the point I was trying to make originally completely.

Lighhten up, you come across as some kind of crazed gun nut at times.


...-Gixer