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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2005, 06:56:22 PM »
Imagine a world without Watergate.

One wonders... could be an interesting thread by itself. ;)

Regardless, if Felt had done nothing, never put the hounds on nixon, for whatever reason; what would that make him?
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2005, 11:38:01 PM »
Woodward and Bernstein did a great job of outing Nixon and his cronies.



Pity they weren't around to do an expose on Old Joe Kennedy's role in determining the outcome of the presidential election of 1960.

Perhaps it's not too late.

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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2005, 06:14:29 AM »
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However, it's pretty obvious this guy did what he did because he got passed over for J. Edgar Hoover's job.


Saying Deep Throat is a Hero is like some one saying:

We should all be thankful to Nixon for sacrificing his presidency to ensure the American people would not have to deal with J. Edgar Hoover's "mini-me".  It was a very brave thing to do, considering the information DT had on Nixon..

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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2005, 07:30:22 AM »
Ben Stein's reply on the Question.

The "news" that former FBI agent Mark Felt broke the law, broke his code of ethics, broke his oath and was the main source for Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward's articles that helped depose Richard Nixon, a few thoughts.

Can anyone even remember now what Nixon did that was so terrible? He ended the war in Vietnam, brought home the POW's, ended the war in the Mideast, opened relations with China, started the first nuclear weapons reduction treaty, saved Eretz Israel's life, started the Environmental Protection Administration. Does anyone remember what he did that was bad?

Oh, now I remember. He lied. He was a politician who lied. How remarkable. He lied to protect his subordinates who were covering up a ridiculous burglary that no one to this date has any clue about its purpose. He lied so he could stay in office and keep his agenda of peace going. That was his crime. He was a peacemaker and he wanted to make a world where there was a generation of peace. And he succeeded.

That is his legacy. He was a peacemaker. He was a lying, conniving, covering up peacemaker. He was not a lying, conniving drug addict like JFK, a lying, conniving war starter like LBJ, a lying, conniving seducer like Clinton -- a lying, conniving peacemaker. That is Nixon's kharma.

When his enemies brought him down, and they had been laying for him since he proved that Alger Hiss was a traitor, since Alger Hiss was their fair-haired boy, this is what they bought for themselves in the Kharma Supermarket that is life:
1.) The defeat of the South Vietnamese government with decades of death and hardship for the people of Vietnam.

2.) The assumption of power in Cambodia by the bloodiest government of all time, the Khmer Rouge, who killed a third of their own people, often by making children beat their own parents to death. No one doubts RN would never have let this happen.

So, this is the great boast of the enemies of Richard Nixon, including Mark Felt: they made the conditions necessary for the Cambodian genocide. If there is such a thing as kharma, if there is such a thing as justice in this life of the next, Mark Felt has bought himself the worst future of any man on this earth. And Bob Woodward is right behind him, with Ben Bradlee bringing up the rear. Out of their smug arrogance and contempt, they hatched the worst nightmare imaginable: genocide. I hope they are happy now -- because their future looks pretty bleak to me.

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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2005, 07:44:50 AM »
traitor or patriot?

given he was a beltway insider?  I would say opportunist.  was hoover a patroit or traitor?  I think that irrespective of motive he did the right thing.  he didn't have an once of testicles and was a dishonorable person.  the right thing would have been to disclose openly and then run to hide under frank church's skirt.   :D  he would have had the eternal gratitude of the freedom hating communist loving liberals, keeping his cushy job as well.

patriot but just barely.  a slimey spineless man.
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2005, 07:59:44 AM »
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the diff being Nixon had the class to step down for the good of the country whereas slick did not ... for lying under oath, not the hummer as some think
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2005, 08:37:08 AM »
Gotta go with Ben Stein on this one.

The man was to cowardly to come forward and do the right thing.

It may not have been for the money but it sure was for revenge.

Funny how the same guys who defend Felt defend Clinton.
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2005, 09:50:55 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2005, 10:01:52 AM »
Nixon did NOT end the Vietnam war from his on choice.. He was forced to.  Nixon was probably more interested in escalating Vietnam as much as anyone in power at the time..  Watergate is just a glimpse into the world of lies that Nixon's presidency was..

Oh ya.. Patriot!
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2005, 11:22:09 AM »

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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2005, 11:30:35 AM »
Wow!  Funny how the winds can change.  Don't any of you gents remember that time?

Gotta love revisionist history.  

All I know is some of you guys are really starting to scare me.  Ben Stein included.

What planet was he on at the time.

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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2005, 11:38:37 AM »
Nixon after acknowledging that he made mistakes did the right thing....He resigned instead of draggin the country further into
 chaos assoicated with the scandal. He stood up in front of the country and took resposibility for his actions on live tv and resigned..  That is what is I call a Stand up guy...Admit your mistakes and learn from them even if you take lumps on the way..
 In later years Nixon's family would explain how bad he actually felt and the guilt he carried....
 Compared to the Clinton scandal which Bill stood up on live taped tv and lied to the country, didn't resign, was proved to have lied and has absolutely no remorse for his actions what so ever...

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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2005, 12:08:33 PM »
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Wow!  Funny how the winds can change.  Don't any of you gents remember that time?

Gotta love revisionist history.  

All I know is some of you guys are really starting to scare me.  Ben Stein included.

What planet was he on at the time.

Dan/CorkyJr


truly.  lol.

and let's not forget the iran contra affair.   you know the one where reagan couldnt recall what had occurred (not to scary...alzhiemers and "the football" to contend with.

oliver north proudly wearing his,' i got away with defying the congress, breaking the law and farting at the constitution' look on that smug little chip toothed face.  all while his barbie doll secretary with the headlips winks for the camera and blinks her little doe eyes at the mastadons.  look over there!!!  (criminals, exit stage left, sign good bye contracts, get yer pin)

who goes to hell first?

a. the guy who gets a hummy (which in lew of his wife is certainly an understandable...talk about taking one for the team, and who then lies when his little girl is watching television too...while all the little girls are watching.  shame realyl.  they coulda waited a few years before the conversation turned to lipjobs.  that's how i saw it anyway.   and for all of you anti feminists, dont you think for one moment that there wasnt an agenda in play there either)

but yes.  it's wrong.

and no, its not worth making our country of the free look like a petty people with way too much free time)

and yes, he should have to meet the same standard as his officers, except that the president is a government employee not an enlistee.  

but whatever.  

it was fun fantasizing about monica lewisky you friendly neighborhood dusty cummins with her mouth on a lollipop wasnt it?  (GAG)

I KNOW,  i know... that if he would have just admitted it.

yeh.  

or.

b.

nixon presiding over a government at the height of it's (and his) paranoia while using the presidency as a personal revenge tool.

he tried to duck the rap too.

he forgot that the first rule of leadership is accepting accountability for your actions.  for you are a servant of the people.

both of them did.

the only disturbing thing about our deepthroat revealed is this.

he was skipped over.

like the republicans to clinton, he waged his war personally.  i am glad in a sense that he did it.  it reminds power that there is never an absolute.  a story for the storybooks.

its probably why nixon skipped him over too.  he probably sensed it.

yet, i dont disagree with what he did...except for not taking responsibility for it himself.

its scary to think that there are so many vendettas in the world.  

silly garbage.

the lot of it.
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2005, 12:56:54 PM »
Ben Stein is a fool!

All he did was lie a little.. gee willikers

He frickin used the FBI and the CIA and the Justice system to cover for a dirty trick team he had running for YEARS! He paid off people with campaign funds that were doing CRIMES like breaking and entering, and ruining peoples lives and careers.  

Poor Dickie.....

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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2005, 01:00:58 PM »
Nixon only resigned because the Republicans in the House of Representatives told him that he was going to be impeached and convicted.

They weren't trumped up political assasination charges like those levied against Clinton, regardless of what you historical revisionists want to believe.
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