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Offline JB88

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« on: June 01, 2005, 09:31:22 AM »
patriot or traitor?
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2005, 09:51:29 AM »
think he'd opened his trap if Nixon would have given him the #1 spot in the FBI?

I do not .. what does that make him?

how about a senile old man whose family is tossing into the spotlight so that they can make a buck or two while someone still gives a rats arse about Watergate...
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2005, 09:52:20 AM »
The FBI Oath:

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I, [insert name here], do solemnly swear to support, uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to obey the lawful orders and directives of those appointed before and above me, and that I enter into this office without any mental reservation whatsoever, so help me GOD.


Seems to me the guy did just that. He's no traitor. Nixon was breaking the law and subverting the FBI to cover it up.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2005, 10:00:22 AM »
Nixon was breaking the law and using his position to subvert the powers entrusted him as president.

The guy was no traitor, not to anyone but Nixon apologists.  Nixon may have been a great president right up to when he violated the nations trust, but after that, he was damaged goods.
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2005, 10:04:44 AM »
I think the only reason he has come to the public now is because his health is failing and he wants to make $$$ on interviews so he has something to leave to the family. It's all about $$$ now.

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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2005, 10:09:45 AM »
LOL... Why do conservatives hate America? Every time someone tries to make a buck they jump all over him.


Oh BTW - Patriot.

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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2005, 02:56:12 PM »
Ditto... Patriot.
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2005, 03:40:27 PM »
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LOL... Why do conservatives hate America? Every time someone tries to make a buck they jump all over him.


I think Patriot also

However, I'm not jumping all over him, I am just stating my opinion on the matter. After all these years why else would the guy finally come forward. I mean, it's not like anyone was actively still trying to find out who "deep throat" really was, and there are no active political campaigns or other politics that seem to be dependant on this isue... It's all about making money now, or getting some sort of recognition or notariaty from it.

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2005, 03:51:57 PM »
In that light, you could say that it's classy that he's waited this long.  If he had identified himself back a few years ago when the book came out that had everyone guessing again, he would have made a lot more money.  Also, the fact is, he's NOT going to affect anyones campaign now.

It's a point in his favor that he waited this long, and he serves history by coming out before he dies.  If we didn't know who he was until after he died, then the opportunity to ask a bunch of historically significant questions would disapear.  If someone who's chronologizing politics of the late 20th century wants, they now have an opportunity to ask one of the most significant insiders in history for details that would otherwise vaporize.

If he was a 'money grubber', he would have unveiled himself earlier when the hype monster was strong.  If he was a fame-potato, ditto.
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2005, 04:21:56 PM »
anyone with a shred of common sense would agree with you chair.

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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2005, 06:15:43 PM »
That lets me out.. so why do i still agree?? ;)
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2005, 06:20:41 PM »
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anyone with a shred of common sense would agree with you chair.


Hmmm... you need to work on your tone. Instead, state it this way, "Anyone that disagrees with me is a f***ing moron."

You'll fit in better around here. ;)
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2005, 06:32:16 PM »
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If he was a 'money grubber', he would have unveiled himself earlier when the hype monster was strong.  If he was a fame-potato, ditto.


he ain't
his children are ... $$$

does he look like he even knows what he is smiling and waving at the camera for?

of course he's a good guy for whistle blowing but I do think that if he'd not been passed over for the FBI job, he'd said a word ...
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2005, 06:36:50 PM »
Keep him in the role he played.  He didn't bring down Nixon.  Nixon and his cronies did that just fine on their own.  

That he may have been not happy about being passed over by the Nixon bunch who wanted a yes man at the FBI so they could control it, is in many ways irrelevant.

I'd also suggest that he battled many an inner demon in keeping the secret and I'd bet he probably had days were he saw himself as a "snitch".

In the end, he did the right thing.

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2005, 06:40:10 PM »
Nixon screwed up, there's no defense for that.

However, it's pretty obvious this guy did what he did because he got passed over for J. Edgar Hoover's job. He's hinted at that several times. He said before he felt like he did the wrong thing.

The truth is, he could have, and should have, dealt with the Nixon problems through legal channels. There's no doubt he could have brought Nixon down without the help of Woodward and Bernstein.

His FAMILY pressed him to reveal his actions now. One of his children, or grandschildren, has flat out admitted that she pressured him into this, so she and the family could get the money now. I think she wants ot pay off debt she ran up for her
children's education.

What does that make him? A man. Not a traitor, not a patriot. Just a man. Nothing more, nothing less.
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