Author Topic: deep throat (Read 1737 times)

midnight Target · « **Reply #75 on:** June 03, 2005, 12:06:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Seagoon
I have no doubt that even if the Post hadn't stuck to the story so tenaciously, the FBI investigation would eventually have toppled his presidency
- SEAGOON

In some cases faith is a good thing. In this case I'm afraid it's misguided.

Hangtime · « **Reply #76 on:** June 03, 2005, 12:17:16 PM »

Seagoon, it was a lot worse than Nixon 'using the office to cover up crimes perpetrated by goons working for him'.

This wasn't kennedy getting his salad tossed, or Eisenhower gettin a little off his driver. This wasn't FDR playing with the neighbors. This was not 'nooky hooky'. Watergate was not a republican vs democrat scandal. Not liberals vs conservatives. This was a corrupt presidency out of control.. it sickened all of us.

There was a hot war on.. riots, Kent State, civil rights violence. Governments were being toppled by the CIA, (under white house control) the cold war was going hot in the middle east.. it was not Eisenhowers America anymore.

Sorry it interupted the cartoon shows.. the revelations of the Press showed us with out dout and conclusively that our government was corrupt. It could not be trusted. It was lying to us. It's motives were not honorable. It was killing us. Spying on us. Doing things that disgusted us. We were ashamed. And angry...

And it all lead right to the President...

john9001 · « **Reply #77 on:** June 03, 2005, 01:28:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime

our government was corrupt. It could not be trusted. It was lying to us. It's motives were not honorable. It was killing us. Spying on us. Doing things that disgusted us. We were ashamed. And angry...

And it all lead right to the President...

you talking about LBJ,macnamra and vietnam , right?

Eagler · « **Reply #78 on:** June 03, 2005, 01:32:47 PM »

we agree with you hang

we are only pointing out the difference in treatment

clinton was as big, bigger in my eyes & others, a scumbucket for many reasons than tricky dicky but was given a pass by the same media who would have fried him if he was a R instead of a D

Sandman · « **Reply #79 on:** June 03, 2005, 01:38:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler

clinton was as big, bigger in my eyes & others, a scumbucket for many reasons than tricky dicky but was given a pass by the same media who would have fried him if he was a R instead of a D

Pfft... Where's your sense of scale?

Hangtime · « **Reply #80 on:** June 03, 2005, 02:39:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
we agree with you hang

we are only pointing out the difference in treatment

clinton was as big, bigger in my eyes & others, a scumbucket for many reasons than tricky dicky but was given a pass by the same media who would have fried him if he was a R instead of a D

Comparing Bill the sweetheart to Tricky Dick? Not possible.. Billy-Boy had a problem with his fly. Dick had a power-complex that was beyond scary. You haul out some evidence that can compare with this:

Tapes: Nixon Sought Brookings Break-In

President Nixon ordered a break-in and theft at the Brookings Institution in June 1971 so he could learn what information the public policy center had collected on the Vietnam war, according to newly released White House tapes.

In a conversation that took place a year before the Watergate break-in that eventually drove him from office, Nixon told Chief of Staff H.R.Hadelman to "break into the place, rifle the files, and bring them out....I want a break-in. I want the Brookings safe cleaned out. And have it cleaned out in a way that makes somebody else look bad.''

At one point, with characteristic gruffness and punctuating each word, Nixon said, "You go in to inspect...and clean it out....I want Brookings, just break in, break in, and take it out. You understand."

Hadelman's responded by saying: "I don't have any problem with breaking in."

The Senate Watergate Committee report detailed the White House's concern that Brookings was planning a study based on Vietnam papers similar to those that had been leaked to the New York Times and Washington Post. The Panel took testimony that Nixon aide Charles W. Colson planned to firebomb the building and steal the documents, an allegation Colson denied.

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It ain' that Billy the Dickwad wasn't on the same team, it's that he ain't even in the same league as Tricky Dick.

Eagler · « **Reply #81 on:** June 03, 2005, 02:58:49 PM »

how do you know what slick said?
any tapes around?

ain't talking about willies fly, he had many other issues other than his infidelity

his dealings with the chinese for starters.. from taking illegal donations to sellng them military bases and allowing technology transfer which gave them the ability to aim their weapons at & now hit the left coast ... hmm, maybe that ain't so bad after all..

again - if it were a dem - it'd been glossed over - look at jfk and his bro ted the drunk for examples of glossed over dems

Sandman · « **Reply #82 on:** June 03, 2005, 03:32:17 PM »

Bah... dems just can't do a proper witch hunt.

If Clinton would have pulled this Iraq/WMD/ImminentThreat crap, there would already be indictments.

john9001 · « **Reply #83 on:** June 03, 2005, 03:37:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Bah... dems just can't do a proper witch hunt.

If Clinton would have pulled this Iraq/WMD/ImminentThreat crap, there would already be indictments.

better watch CNN, the UN now says the WMD were moved, but they don't know to where.

JB88 · « **Reply #84 on:** June 03, 2005, 03:43:14 PM »

one word. downing street memo.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #85 on:** June 03, 2005, 06:08:52 PM »

Anyone care to comment on the fact that Felt himself was tried and convicted of illegal wiretapping and other "black bag" jobs, the same things he claimed to be so vehemently opposed to and so deeply concerned about? It's a fact. Oh, and Nixon testified in his defense, and Reagan pardoned him. Nixon congratulated him on the pardon as well.

The fact is, regardless of what Nixon did, Felt is no hero, nor is he a patriot. Not when he was doing EXACTLY the same things he complained the Nixon administration was doing. He was merely pissed that he was the deputy director of the FBI and got passed over for the director job when Hoover kicked the bucket. He also lacked the balls to follow his oath and take it to the grand jury, and instead skulked around and stole documents and leaked them in violation of both his oath and the law. He hid for 30 years because he knew he was wrong, criminally wrong, and was ashamed. His family has outed him for the money, now that he is practically dead and only about 50% mentally coherent, about 50% of the time.

In keeping with the original question, which was NOT about Nixon, the answer is neither, he is no patriot, nor a traitor. He is no hero either.