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« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2005, 12:27:22 AM »
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What I think? What I think doesn't matter.

What the CDC thinks... that probably matters.

73% vs 1%.... what do you think?
Where's the figures on men that frequent prostitutes? Ya left that stat out.
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« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2005, 12:28:54 AM »
Sorry. Let me make it more clear for you.

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* Heterosexuals who have had sexual contact with someone with AIDS, or at risk for AIDS (1 percent)


That would be your straight men (or women) that frequent prostitutes.

1%
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« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2005, 12:33:05 AM »
Bzzzzt. You're cherry picking the data.
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« Reply #48 on: June 04, 2005, 12:38:54 AM »
LOL. Really?

You're not reading it.

They account for 95% of people with AIDS.

You tell me then. They've CATEGORIZED 95% of the AIDS case.

Where's the figures on men that frequent prostitutes?

It's likely in that 95% don't you think? At best, if it's not in there at ALL and EVERY other case in the missing 5% is "men that frequent prostitutes" you're left with.......

uh.... 5%.

Against 73% Sexually active homosexual or bisexual men.

Maybe you were thinking "men that frequent prostitutes" is mysteriously mis-categorized in "infants"?

Quit digging... you can still climb out.
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« Reply #49 on: June 04, 2005, 12:54:15 AM »
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LOL. Really?

You're not reading it.

They account for 95% of people with AIDS.

You tell me then. They've CATEGORIZED 95% of the AIDS case.

Where's the figures on men that frequent prostitutes?
Gimme a link. I've been looking thru the CDC site and can't seem to find your data.
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« Reply #50 on: June 04, 2005, 01:06:51 AM »
Still looking and nothing so far to support your data. Where's that CDC link?
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« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2005, 01:08:30 AM »
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm#aidscases

That's not the exact one but it gives the raw numbers in the categories shown here.

There's another one at CDC that reduces the numbers to percentages but I'd have to look a while. I took a wrong turn at CDC.
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« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2005, 01:10:32 AM »
Here is the only relevant statistic that deals with AIDS:

It is possible to be 100% sure that you will not contract AIDS as an adult.
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« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2005, 01:17:16 AM »
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The Romans held slaves and thought nothing of it either.  Did you have an actual point?


We have millions of slaves, we just keep them as distant caretakers and think nothing of it.

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« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2005, 01:20:34 AM »
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Male-to-male sexual contact 17,969

Injection Drug Use 6,353

Heterosexual contact 5,133

Male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use 1,877

Other* 281

Odd, that does not work out to 73% vs 1%.
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« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2005, 01:24:16 AM »
OK, found it.

Raw numbers on CDC site, percentages here

http://www.textfiles.com/sex/aids02.txt

listed as sourced by the Red Cross.
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« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2005, 01:35:25 AM »
Well, even if 100% of those with aids are homosexual men, try as hard as you can to refrain from having sex with them, and if your partners noodle tastes like poop, he is most likely gay.

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« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2005, 01:36:33 AM »
LOL, yeah that'd be one clue I guess. Especially if you're a guy. ;)
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« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2005, 01:36:50 AM »
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AIDS-1 Rev. May 1986
A 20 year old report during the height of Reagan's homophobic AIDS campaign. Wasn't the original title "The Gay Plague"? Nice try.
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« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2005, 01:38:03 AM »
Awww.. poor boy.

You didn't looke at the CDC site and run the percentages yourself did ya?

And you think the Red Cross is homophobic and not to be trusted with stats?
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