Lala's Ruined It For Me

[eskimo2]

PS,

I just flew for an hour last night (intense hour) and didn't see one LALA.  Check out the CT.

eskimo

[Dawggus]

Odd, hurry back, it won't be the same without ya!

Cya Up!

Dawg

[Creamo]

Originally posted by Oddball-CAF
Gents,
  Just wanted to say goodbye.
  The La7 in particular has caused me so much aggravation that I'm cancelling my account. [/QUOTE

Stop being a *****, eveytime you kill a LA LA7, you garner extra AH2 mojo fun powers.

Can't kill them sitting at home whining there chief. Get back in and start throwing bullets. Just saying.

[MENDEZ]

Sad too see you leave bud, hope to see ya soon. <>

[BTAirsol]

ODD, you and I have been flying for several years now, and I do not like you leaving. Let's say you and I get some Hogs and burn those la 7's down. Come back Odd .

[culero]

Originally posted by Tilt
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Re Ho'ers etc I am just amazed that folk use the La7 for this when the Typhoon is available.

Really...or even the 110

culero (not that I'd ever do that)

[dedalos]

Here we go again.  Crying about the lala while we are talking about how fun it is to kill it.  Lala is fast.  Thats just about it.  The cannons can't hurt you if you don't get in front of it.  However, I am tired of the LA considered a dirty plane simply because it can run down the vulch tards in the 51s and D9s, so please perk it.  Lets hear some whines about the D9 and the 51 for a while.  Oh, wait, they are not Russian.  Never mind.

[Balsy]

Odd,

Similiar frustrations on my part but just in regards to the MA in general.

I have found the following to be helpful for me.

1. Fly the DA.
2. Fly KOTH-- (did for the first time was a blast).
3. Seek out and fly Scenario Play etc... (I need to do this).

and finally come back when TOD is here

Semper Fly,

Balsy

[JB73]

Originally posted by eskimo2
Oddball, now that I see and recall you handle (oddcaf) I looked up your stats in Tour 64.  As I predicted you mostly fly heavy, faster B & Z planes (Fw 190D-9, P-47-D30, Bf 109G-10, P-47D-11 & Tempest).  Of those, your K/D seems only to suffer in the Jugs and 109G-10.  The problem, as you have pointed out, is that The El-Gay-Seven can out-accelerate, out-climb, out-run & out-turn most of these birds.  Why not stick to the planes that you fly and do better in against the El-Gay and that have a turning advantage (Spit-V, LA-5, 109f-4)?  

eskimo

if i may comment on this "suggestion"

personally i fly the D9 almost exclusively, and have somewhat learned how to stay safe form la7's, though it means i pass up fights with other planes, because an la7 is within 5k icon of me.

that is the problem here i think. i wouldn't be caught dead is a spit (except for my squad's "Dweeb week") im not one of those twisty deck fighters. i have zero interest in that style of fighting. OddCAF and i have flown together many times in the past, and he is similar in thought.

also, why should i change what i fly, and do what i don't like to do just because of the La7? or to put it this way, if the la7 in real life could for lack of a better word "School" every other plane it fought against, why is it not the best known, and most revered WWII plane in history? i have met people, even a relative who is a WWII buff (and does knwo quite a bit) and they have never heard of the la7.

as you said "is that The El-Gay-Seven can out-accelerate, out-climb, out-run & out-turn most of these birds." that is the general consensus. now ther eare people who don't know how to fly the la7 properly, and are beaten every day in the MA. but in even a decent pilot's hands it is in my opinion hands down the deadliest plane in the plane set. as someone else said, you can chase down tempests. does that not make it the fastest prop plane in the game?

i'll use the p38 fanatics statement about the la7:

what it can't out turn it can out run and out climb.

there is no doubt about that.

so back to the original comment. i really don't think the la7 was that "uber" in real life, but it is in here. with a plane that performs that well, and is used en-masse in the MA, as to almost disrupt gameplay, it should be perked.


oh well thats my opinion

[Suave]

What gets me about the La7 is that, yes it may not be quite as good as the tempest, but it's infinitely cheaper.

[SlapShot]

LOL ... the La-7 Whine Bomb has fully engulfed this thread. It's not about OddBall's departure but rather another thread that can be added to the incessant whining about the La-La.

i really don't think the la7 was that "uber" in real life, but it is in here. with a plane that performs that well, and is used en-masse in the MA, as to almost disrupt gameplay, it should be perked.

Come on 73 ... you "think" ... please provide some data that proves all of Pyro's research to be wrong.

I see more german iron (109s and 190s) than anything else when I fly in the MA, but I'll be damned if I am gonna ask for them to be perked or say that they disrupt gameplay.

I took up a G10 the other day and beat La-7s with ease ... I don't see the problem.

[JB73]

Originally posted by SlapShot
...I took up a G10 the other day and beat La-7s with ease ... I don't see the problem.

you are a much much better pilot than me, and we all know that.

personally if i am dragging 1 la7 with no other con's in icon i can 1/2 of the time do a scissors / yoyo and get him off me enought to escape, but i will not beat him most of the time (and will die if it is a decent pilot).

i know in a straight up merge i will lose to the la7 75% of the time if i stay in the fight. i just am not that good.

i also know that i am not the worst pilot in the MA.

what does that mean? well all the talented virtual pilots say "it's the pilot on the plane" when you are not that good it IS the plane. i can kick some major butt in the la7 during dweeb week (by all measures of stats, which is the only way i know to measure), but i dont want to be a dweeb, so i don't fly it as my normal ride. in fact why should I?

well heck, i say have everyone medicore in the MA fly la7's and nothing else. then we'll see what people say.

again there's my opinion.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by JB73
if i may comment on this "suggestion"

personally i fly the D9 almost exclusively, and have somewhat learned how to stay safe form la7's, though it means i pass up fights with other planes, because an la7 is within 5k icon of me.

So the problem really is that the LA7 will run you down?  Would you engage a SpitV if a 51, D9, or KI84 was 5K out?

also, why should i change what i fly, and do what i don't like to do just because of the La7? or to put it this way, if the la7 in real life could for lack of a better word "School" every other plane it fought against, why is it not the best known, and most revered WWII plane in history? i have met people, even a relative who is a WWII buff (and does knwo quite a bit) and they have never heard of the la7.

Why should the others change what they fly?  This is not real life and the LA7 cannot school anything.  As my friend Storch said, these are cartoon airplanes and we are pretending to be fighter pilots.

My point is, if the LA7 was gone tomorrow, the same crying would happen about a different plane.  Most likelly the D9 and the 51 with some NIKI.

[JB73]

Originally posted by dedalos
So the problem really is that the LA7 will run you down?  Would you engage a SpitV if a 51, D9, or KI84 was 5K out?
 

yes i would. i can fight those planes, but i can not fight an la7 in any plane, not just the d9.

in a 190f i can get inside, but not catch to shoot the la7. in a g10 i can catch the la7 sometimes, but he will out turn me and then i can not get away. in a 190a5 i can not do anything against the la7. in the 205 i can sort of hang with the la7, at least to not get shot, but will not get him.

again as stated in each post:

oh well thats my opinion

again there's my opinion

maybe i am the only person who can not fight an la7 in any plane, but from the complaints about it for the last 3 years i doubt it.

lastly for a final time that is my opinion

[Tilt]

Originally posted by JB73


also, why should i change what i fly, and do what i don't like to do just because of the La7? or to put it this way, if the la7 in real life could for lack of a better word "School" every other plane it fought against, why is it not the best known, and most revered WWII plane in history? i have met people, even a relative who is a WWII buff (and does knwo quite a bit) and they have never heard of the la7.

 

The fact that it was as good as we have it modelled here is a matter of record.

The fact that it was not so "famous" in the West is a matter of who wrote that history. Even folk who post here refer to "commies" and basically decide that disqualifies all records.

It should be one of the best known and most revered planes of WWII. However it would have been useless as a bomber escort or even a medium or high alt bomber interceptor it would have been equally useless for long range maritime use or even in any area of the tropics where its wooden construction rotted due to fungicidal attack.

It was a plane of its place and its time and suited the war it had to fight perfectly. It was ideal at low alt interception of fast attack ac or low alt short range escort. A role that is a perfect fit in the MA.

Because its the fastest ac in the MA it can run away best which means it is the "safest" ride for them that want to play that way.