Wanted Mature realistically inclined re-enactors

[MOIL]

I hear ya El Condor,

If you're looking for that type of teamwork and or type of gameplay there is only one place to find it

L T A R

What you discribe we do on a daily basis, less of course we're getting 142 500lbr's dropped on our heads from dive bombing Lanc's or B17's.

Have a wonderful day

[beet1e]

Beeger? I think I remember you from WB! I was scrmbl.

Good luck finding what you're looking for here. I can understand your somewhat thinly veiled frustration. I've long believed that the pricing plan affects who plays, and how the game is played. You can remember the old $2/hr days. A price like that meant that only reasonably well heeled guys, typically in their 30s/40s and up could afford to play. This was good for two reasons. 1) There WAS, I believe, more respect - maybe not that much, but some, and I never EVER saw any of that "it's MY $14.95" crap (or "it's MY $2/hr") in WB that I was seeing on a daily basis in AH. 2) Because the average age of player was higher, guys like us whose fathers actually served in WW2 (my father served in the RAF) had a direct link to what WW2 was about. People like you and I are interested in re-enactments. For me, I wanted to be able to see what the various planes were like, and explore the role they might have had in WW2.

But with no hourly fee, and a price of a mere 50 cents a day, anyone can have an AH account. So the average subscriber's age is much less. So we get the teens/20 somethings. Because they are so much younger than us, there are one or even two intervening generations of their families before you get up to the generation that served in WW2. So they are not interested in re-enactments. They were never able to talk to their fathers - as we could - about what WW2 was really like. To some of them, it was just an event that their great-grandparents lived through and knew about, and they probably never knew their great-grandparents. To them, it's just a Quake-style shoot-em-up. A lot of people lamented the gunnery change in AH2, and wanted the AH1 800yd gunnery because it was "more fun". To you and me, that would be anathema!

Funked was so right about what was missing in AH - "$2/hr keeping all the tardz out".

[Shuckins]

There isn't any reason the MA can't be made more realistic, and it wouldn't require a tremendous amount of planning.

Anyone remember Filth's bomber mission from a few months back...which he advertised in advance?  When I logged on that night I was flabbergasted to see a massive green line advancing on our hq.  My squad members were all on to witness and take part in the spectacle.

Per the instructions of my squad co I upped a fighter...a 109 G-10 with a drop tank.  I climbed and paralleled the stream and eventually entered combat above 30k, where I and many other defenders mixed it up with the escorts.

Managed to shoot down a mustang, got jumped by another, entered a rolling, jinking dive to try to wipe him off, got shot to 'ell before a teammate waxed his little red wagon, and managed to land that wreck at one of our bases.

That was the most fun I've ever had in the MA.  I'd love to see more missions like that.

Regards, Shuckins

[TheBeeg]

Beetle;
I would tend to agree with you that one needs a sense of the history of the period to be able to see things from the perspective I see it.  One thing that helps me with that is that I do a lot of WW2 TV watching, listen to 40's music on XM radio and read all I can on what the world was like in that decade.  Also, I'm somewhat fortunate in that I'm able to afford having subs in AH2, WW2OL and WB concurrently so if the dweeb factor gets to high anywhere I can always shift gears and cool down a bit.
Beeg
aka ElCondor

Originally posted by beet1e
Beeger? I think I remember you from WB! I was scrmbl.

Good luck finding what you're looking for here. I can understand your somewhat thinly veiled frustration. I've long believed that the pricing plan affects who plays, and how the game is played. You can remember the old $2/hr days. A price like that meant that only reasonably well heeled guys, typically in their 30s/40s and up could afford to play. This was good for two reasons. 1) There WAS, I believe, more respect - maybe not that much, but some, and I never EVER saw any of that "it's MY $14.95" crap (or "it's MY $2/hr") in WB that I was seeing on a daily basis in AH. 2) Because the average age of player was higher, guys like us whose fathers actually served in WW2 (my father served in the RAF) had a direct link to what WW2 was about. People like you and I are interested in re-enactments. For me, I wanted to be able to see what the various planes were like, and explore the role they might have had in WW2.

But with no hourly fee, and a price of a mere 50 cents a day, anyone can have an AH account. So the average subscriber's age is much less. So we get the teens/20 somethings. Because they are so much younger than us, there are one or even two intervening generations of their families before you get up to the generation that served in WW2. So they are not interested in re-enactments. They were never able to talk to their fathers - as we could - about what WW2 was really like. To some of them, it was just an event that their great-grandparents lived through and knew about, and they probably never knew their great-grandparents. To them, it's just a Quake-style shoot-em-up. A lot of people lamented the gunnery change in AH2, and wanted the AH1 800yd gunnery because it was "more fun". To you and me, that would be anathema!

Funked was so right about what was missing in AH - "$2/hr keeping all the tardz out".

[TheBeeg]

Shuckins;
I totally agree and would add that it doesn't matter what others do as these games are all about giving the player the perspective he/she wants to see.  Paralelling what  you're saying, if I'm in a large bomber stream of B-17s escorted by Jugs and Pony's at 25,000 feet I'm in WW2.  Doesn't bother me at all that when the enemy shows up they're flying a Spit as when the action gets hot and furious I can always turn the icons off with a flick of my pinkie finger.  The key to the kind of experience you recount is taking the initiative to create realistic missions for others to join or not as they see fit.  It's about how "I" play not what others do or don't.
Beeg
aka ElCondor

Originally posted by Shuckins
There isn't any reason the MA can't be made more realistic, and it wouldn't require a tremendous amount of planning.

Anyone remember Filth's bomber mission from a few months back...which he advertised in advance?  When I logged on that night I was flabbergasted to see a massive green line advancing on our hq.  My squad members were all on to witness and take part in the spectacle.

Per the instructions of my squad co I upped a fighter...a 109 G-10 with a drop tank.  I climbed and paralleled the stream and eventually entered combat above 30k, where I and many other defenders mixed it up with the escorts.

Managed to shoot down a mustang, got jumped by another, entered a rolling, jinking dive to try to wipe him off, got shot to 'ell before a teammate waxed his little red wagon, and managed to land that wreck at one of our bases.

That was the most fun I've ever had in the MA.  I'd love to see more missions like that.

Regards, Shuckins

[Drunky]

Wait, I'm still stuck on the contraposition of 'mature' and 're-enactors'.

I always that the two of them couldn't exist together in our universe.