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Offline Howitzer

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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2005, 09:28:18 AM »
Dave,

This is something I am really into getting a better feel for as well.  If you want to work on your aim, give me a yell and I'll hop in the DA with ya.  

I can't seem to hit snapshots at all with the taters, but I can hit a straight 6 pretty well.  I think it will just take some getting used to, but when you only have a little over 60 rounds, by the time you get a feel for it you are out of ammo.


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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2005, 01:15:07 PM »
hblair has to be the best 109 pile-it of all time. even better than gunman26.

 just thought i'd add that.

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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2005, 05:00:39 AM »
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hblair has to be the best 109 pile-it of all time. even better than gunman26.


LOL, hiyas hbliar, u still flying m8??

(and gunman26 sucs ballz in a 109)

Nomak,


Take the 30mm and put short bursts into your con at a distance around 200 yds. I agree with most of the statements of Kweassa btw.
Let them scissor in front of you, take the shot at the big upper surface of their plane (I love a P38 in front of me). Be careful on the overshoot.
You can take 400 yds shots with the 30mm if you set the convergence to that distance and fire at exactly that distance. Be careful though firing at less or more needs much more compensation for then any other caliber.

And always setup for the firing solution, don't setup to get on someone’s six (hardly ever possible in this plane vs T&B planes anyway). Go for the snapshots. I got loads and loads of film killing T&B ers using snapshots and lead shots especially when they high yoyo on me  

Leave the gondies, they will slow u down in roll rate and speed.
Use the vertical, especially if u want to stall fight and be able to use the flaps (which deploy at less then 160mph, unlike all americanobread uberplanes).

Anything higher then u....bleed their E to co_E by shallow dive until they reach max speed. Doesn't matter whether on your six or not, most are not patient enough and will try to go for kill first turn anyway, giving u the opportunity to make em overshoot and fight them. From the equal E state u have the vertical advantage over most planes  

The keyword for this plane is....patience (for setting up for the ideal shot, for learning to snapshoot with 30mm, learning how for to lead with 30mm, learning the most effective use of the flaps of a g10, best fuel state for knife fights, handling the compression => use vator trim, when to go for the rope and especially when NOT, throttle management in knife fights, when to ease out of the knife fight and setup again, etc). Don't be affraid to *** up (i know i still do allot and i fly this thing since I can't remember how long.

If you want to practice some revs in the DA, gimmy a shout.

Ohh yeah, and by the time u think ur really good in it....give NathBDP a try in the G10 lol




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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2005, 10:37:09 AM »
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Is the single 30mm the best load-out for the 109 series?


I prefer the 151 single 20mm...

alot more versitile than the potatoe launcher..

granted you have to make your hits count but at under 300 m  you will appreciate the accuracy of the prop hubbed weapon, its decent ROF, ammo duration and trajectory

heavy bombers could be problematic if you are alone..  (you should be able to bag them if you set up high and in front of them...  wing attacks from a 45 deg foward angle usually can take a wing on one pass..) (or if you prefer high and nose to nose dumping rounds front nose to tail will sometimes gets them with a one pass...) (tail shots are suicide avoid them..)

the 151 imo is the better weapon..  30mm while it has its moments its drawbacks keep me from using it.. (as soon as i put that weapon in my bird all i get is fighters..   when i have a 20mm it really doesn't matter..  its effective on both if you know what your doing..  some may say the same about the 30mm "if you know what your doing" but I say the trajectory and the ammo load out blows..  and that may or may not effect your flying style.. , me personally I am sometimes hesitent to take a low prob shot with the 30mm while i'll dump 20mm in a heartbeat in the same situation..)

its really a matter of preference..  I prefer consistent firepower over killing blows..


2 cents..



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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2005, 11:40:50 AM »
60 rounds go quick

you may want to start with the 20mm so you aren't spending all your time rtb'ing

grab a dt as fuel goes quick too
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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2005, 08:49:04 PM »
i flew for a long tiem with gondys on...

i also figth in the DA iwth bombs on...it makes you a bettr pilot; )


with out a doubt there a large advantage with gondys on for fire power...


learn to fly with them..and you will get more kills


flying with just 30s mil s..for me..suks..

I think Dial up..really seems to limit my gun packages..I need Hi rate of large cannosn firing to get quick kills in furballs...

no way in hell..i can get multi kills..in afurball..with a singel 30 mil cannon...Who the hell can stay on soemones azzz that long to get a shot..before soem nik is on ur azzz

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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2005, 10:46:09 PM »
By looking at the title I thought this thread was going to be about Lgays!      :D

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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2005, 11:19:10 PM »
Just use HT's .extryamno command. Solves all the problems.
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2005, 11:36:54 AM »
I can get 4-5 killz with 30mm only easily.  :)

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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2005, 01:50:35 PM »
Thank you everyone for all the input.  I am gonna fly it all for a while then I will post my thoughts/findings.

c yas up.... Dave

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« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2005, 09:43:01 PM »
tis only a matter of time before you feel the Force of the Tank. :cool:

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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2005, 05:14:05 PM »
mk108 is all about gettn in close... practice from there

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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2005, 05:31:57 PM »
The 30mm does suck, yes. But it's also easy to get 4-5 kills with it, as stated.

But I want to add that you should NOT discount the MGs, either. You have many hundreds of rounds of 50cal (essentially, they're 50cal, for AH2's purposes). They're great for pilot wounds, finishing wounded planes, of for when you run out of cannon (don't rtb til your MG ammo is gone!)

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« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2005, 10:27:28 AM »
I logged on this past weekend for a quick sortie. Haven't flown in months. Took forever to D/L athe update, terrain, patches, etc. Finally get oin the MA, fly for a while, get a few kills and disco.

But while flying, I encounter nomak.
Nomak, what were you doing in a ta152?? You're supposed to be 109'n man. :)

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« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2005, 10:53:44 AM »
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Originally posted by Nomak
Is the single 30mm the best load-out for the 109 series?

Yes!      5 taters at a time  
             conv at 225
             shoot at 200 or less
             IMHO  :)

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