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Offline 1K3

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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2005, 08:36:03 PM »
heh... wait till HTC remodels the N1K2-J and its FM to AH2 standards... the automatic flaps (whcih the N1K2-J had in real life) in N1K2-J are droped depending on the plane's AoA. This will make life harder for spitties and F6Fs...:D
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2005, 08:44:31 PM »
nah. its still jap, still made of paper, and still garbage.
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2005, 12:37:11 PM »
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heh... wait till HTC remodels the N1K2-J and its FM to AH2 standards... the automatic flaps (whcih the N1K2-J had in real life) in N1K2-J are droped depending on the plane's AoA. This will make life harder for spitties and F6Fs...:D


NO flaps should auto-extend UNLESS ALL flaps that already auto-retract are changed not too. There are enough crutches in the game as it is, we don't need more of the good fetures with less and less of the bad features.
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2005, 02:06:58 PM »
Is it really so hard to hit the flaps out button that you need auto extending flaps?
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2005, 02:16:49 PM »
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Is it really so hard to hit the flaps out button that you need auto extending flaps?


HT thinks so, why else would we have the auto-retracting flaps?


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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2005, 03:35:01 PM »
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NO flaps should auto-extend UNLESS ALL flaps that already auto-retract are changed not too. There are enough crutches in the game as it is, we don't need more of the good fetures with less and less of the bad features.

So modeling the real behavior of the N1K2-J's flaps is bad?

Mmmkay.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2005, 04:07:32 PM »
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So modeling the real behavior of the N1K2-J's flaps is bad?

Mmmkay.  :rolleyes:



Since modeling the realistic behavior of flaps for any plane has been tossed out in favor of the coddling auto-retracting flaps, why should the N1K2 be any different?


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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2005, 04:10:46 PM »
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Since modeling the realistic behavior of flaps for any plane has been tossed out in favor of the coddling auto-retracting flaps, why should the N1K2 be any different?


ack-ack

Because we aren't talking about the auto-retracting flaps that you P-38 fanatics whine endlessly about even though they have zero negative effects on your precious P-38s.

Universal autoretract to be friendly to new players != auto deployed flaps unique to the N1K series.

One is a gameplay consession inflicted on all aircraft in AH and the other is a modeling issue.
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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2005, 06:33:10 PM »
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Since modeling the realistic behavior of flaps for any plane has been tossed out in favor of the coddling auto-retracting flaps, why should the N1K2 be any different?


 Simple!

 Because modelling automatic extension is different from automatic retraction.

 This one doesn't go over the limits set by the game - limits which are set, for a good reason.
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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2005, 08:20:57 PM »
THe real N1K2-J AUTO EXTEND its flaps (again... depending on YOUR AoA, btw it uses some mercury device that can tell when to AUTO EXTEND)... NOT AUTO-RETRACT!
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« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2005, 09:07:19 PM »
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i never have my convergs that close...500+


who the hell has time in the MA to get that close?/


omg :rofl
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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2005, 09:11:16 PM »
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guys,
Took a nikky up and got involved in some low and slow twists and turns on a spit 9.
I had my guns converged for 275? I waited and waited and got to 200-400 on a consistint basis and never even downed him ? At one point I was way under 200 and still nothing? I aimed for wings, engine etc and before I could ry again (  4 good firing solutions beforehand) I was hit on my six by somebody else.

Do you have to fire from a longer distance on the nikkys ?
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Freind, the true secret is 325.  And it's a hard lead shot 400 or less in a turn.  By that I mean bottom or off sight (under nose).
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« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2005, 09:59:05 PM »
As for the convergence issues, if this can be of any help, the Japanese N1K pilots use full 650yds for inboard cannons, and about 300 for outboard cannons.

 They use two cannons at a time. The inboard cannons for long range sniping, and outboard cannons for close range snapshots. When the distance is inside 200yds, they use all for cannons.

 I'm not sure if they changed their doctrine, since after AH2 and its different gunnery, they seem to be having lower success rates in long range gunnery as a whole. They might have given up long convergence ranges entirely.
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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2005, 10:07:51 PM »
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Niki's are crap as crap. I hate them. I hate this thread. The only good nik is one on fire and smashing into the ground.


A picture is worth a thousand words :)

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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2005, 10:20:46 PM »
i usually dump 400 rnds of cannons (empty all 2nd fire option) and i found that the N1K2-J seem to performs better and shots are far more accurate
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