Author Topic: Hate for everything Russian (Read 1161 times)

Hawklore · « **Reply #30 on:** June 07, 2005, 10:21:36 PM »

Who can not love a Russian Made Mosin Nagant?

Goth · « **Reply #31 on:** June 07, 2005, 10:24:42 PM »

Let me see if I can give this a try....

By the very birth and origins of our nation, Americans despise oppression. Funked hit on it in my opinion.

Growing up in the later years of the Cold War, we never despised the Russian peoples, but we did despise the Russian government and their, at times, appalling brutality. We certainly did not want communism in our back yard. Just watch some films made during the 50's, 60's and 70's. I think one of my favorites is "The Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming".

Hangtime · « **Reply #32 on:** June 07, 2005, 10:35:45 PM »

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Originally posted by genozaur
NO, NO, and NO. But some guys (just like you) think YES, YES, and YES. And those idiots are paid from my own taxes.

Then what's yer beef?

Really?

'just like me'? Kid, yer clueless; I came by my opinions honestly.

You, on the other hand, find it convienient to blame anybody, anything for yer imagined plagerized problems.

Just WTF do you really think you are accomplishing with the dreck yer pushing?

Do you imagine yerself to be the new Brighton Beach Malcom X?

Tell yah what. Yah wanna have a discussion with the folks creating the negative russian immigrant image problem? Stuff yer head back up yer bum and shout loud and long. See if there's an echo. There's an argument you got a slim chance of winning.

Mini D · « **Reply #33 on:** June 07, 2005, 10:37:07 PM »

Hey Miko2D... I thought you were banned?

genozaur · « **Reply #34 on:** June 07, 2005, 10:44:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad So much for nothing. Try to understand: the problem is not what your nation did at places like Katyn. ALL nations have black spots on their honor at some point in time. The problem is that there is no admission of guilt, no sorrow or repentance for the deed by the Russians that post here, again using Katyn as the example for brevity. THAT is the problem. Funked spelled it out for you: And, as one who watched PVO Strany try and I emphasize try to fly formation on a 4-engine Boeing, I'm not real impressed with their supposed "elite" status. I can honestly state that the only time I was ever nervous while flying 20 miles off your coastline was when one of your fighters tried to fly formation with us. THAT was a scary thing to watch.

Toad, the Soviet Air Force pilots were always the aerobics challenged. So those weren't the orders of the high command. Just one example: in mid-thirties at the air show before Stalin's eyes the Red Air Force pilot in Ilyusin fighter plane decided to fly in circle around the airbourne four-engine passenger airliner. This resulted in the deadly collision of the two planes. Other examples you probably know from the news. Maybe its time for you to let go of that stress you suffered. I feel bad for you because I also do not like such kind of experience. Hopefully you know some other ways (than these BBS) to relieve yourself of the burden of that old stress.

And BTW, what is the reason for me to admit somebody else's guilt. I did not do any of the stuff you are trying to blame me for. And I was born after Stalin's death. Should I feel sorry for that too ? And, as I said much earlier, there is no Soviet Union anymore. This is the year 2005, the fifth year of the XXIst century.

Toad · « **Reply #35 on:** June 07, 2005, 10:55:06 PM »

Flying formation on a 4-engine Boeing is not for the "aerobics challenged"?

Are you saying they were fat and out of shape?

Or are you saying they were "aerobatically challenged"?

Flying formation with a 4-engine Boeing has little if anything to do with aerobatics. These guys couldn't stay on your wing. They were wobbling all over the sky, up and down, in and out. In short, they were not proficient pilots. They did not have their aircraft under control. Cod help them if they ever really HAD to air-refuel. I think there would have been a lot of flamouts and bail outs.

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what is the reason for me to admit somebody else's guilt

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Funked is trying to help you:

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But none of them should forget what happened, and I will speak out against those who try to deny the facts.

genozaur · « **Reply #36 on:** June 07, 2005, 10:55:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime Then what's yer beef? Really? 'just like me'? Kid, yer clueless; I came by my opinions honestly. You, on the other hand, find it convienient to blame anybody, anything for yer imagined plagerized problems. Just WTF do you really think you are accomplishing with the dreck yer pushing? Do you imagine yerself to be the new Brighton Beach Malcom X? Tell yah what. Yah wanna have a discussion with the folks creating the negative russian immigrant image problem? Stuff yer head back up yer bum and shout loud and long. See if there's an echo. There's an argument you got a slim chance of winning.

I just told you what is happening to my computers. That's all. You do not want to believe me ? It's fine with me. I haven't seen my photos in full profile yet (just the half-profile with the exposed ear, for the work authorization). Have you seen yours ? Get ready.

genozaur · « **Reply #37 on:** June 07, 2005, 10:59:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad Flying formation on a 4-engine Boeing is not for the "aerobics challenged"? Are you saying they were fat and out of shape? Or are you saying they were "aerobatically challenged"? Flying formation with a 4-engine Boeing has little if anything to do with aerobatics. These guys couldn't stay on your wing. They were wobbling all over the sky, up and down, in and out. In short, they were not proficient pilots. They did not have their aircraft under control. Cod help them if they ever really HAD to air-refuel. I think there would have been a lot of flamouts and bail outs. Funked is trying to help you: [/B]

My mistake. Of course I meant 'aerobatically challenged'. Which does not exclude that some of them were 'aerobics challenged'.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 07, 2005, 11:06:43 PM »

This joker is Miko? DIdnt he get banned for being a racist *******?

cpxxx · « **Reply #39 on:** June 07, 2005, 11:09:58 PM »

Now I'm sure it's a troll.

Vad · « **Reply #40 on:** June 07, 2005, 11:56:54 PM »

Inflammatory/Troll

Hangtime · « **Reply #41 on:** June 08, 2005, 12:25:54 AM »

Yer kiddin, right?

"what did communism ever do to you"?

Vad, ok; are YOU a communist?

Speak up.. it's a free country.

Wotan · « **Reply #42 on:** June 08, 2005, 01:09:43 AM »

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Please name anybody here who "defend Stalin" or "Communism".

The most recent examples can be found in this thread.

You can find the names of the Stalin / Bolshevik defenders in that thread. I can dig up other threads where they do the same as well.

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Why the educatinal system of the USSR can't be better than the miserably failing educational system of the USA ? And not knowing some facts doesn't necessarily make the person stupid.

I assume you are a product of the Soviet education system, do you consider yourself more intelligent then any Ami or Westerner who posts on this board?

Name one person who doesn't know that Cuba and China are communist.

Creating 'straw man' arguments isn't a sign of intelligence. It's typically the tactic of the 'stupid'. Making simplistic statements such as 'miserably failing educational system of the USA' is just such a straw man. Unless you can define specific issues or examples that are factual, and that are able to be discussed directly, it would appear you are just lashing out like a frightened dog.

Since this thread is about hating 'Russians' if you wish to discuss the 'US educational system' (technically, despite interference from the Federal Government, there isn't a 'central' US education System) start another thread and we can go through it.

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You don't want to be accused in racism and hate propaganda, so most of you started from "I don't hate Russians...". OK, let make it more simple. Most of you hate Communism and Communists, right? WHAT DID COMMUNIST DO TO YOU, AMERICANS?

I don't know anyone that hates 'Russians'. That's not being politically correct, those are the facts. I don't why your mind can't handle that.

Americans and most of the West can look at the record of Soviet communism and find reason to hate and reject it.

In fact even your own people 'rejected it' after just 71 years. As funked said:

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A lot of us know people who suffered under Soviet oppression around the world. Some people here even felt that opression directly, living in the countries that were terrorized by Soviet rule.
Others had Soviet puppet soldiers trying to kill or maim them, or knew someone who suffered that fate. Or like me they had a close family member forced to travel thousands of miles and risk life and limb to stop communist invasion of a sovereign nation.

There are people like this all over the world. It's natural that there are still some hard feelings.

There are large segments of the 'Americans' who came to this country to escape the Soviet communist system.

The Soviet Communist Regime didn't have to do anything directly to me for me to 'hate it'. Just like a murderer or rapist etc doesn't have to murder or rape me in order to receive my 'hatred'.

People don't react to folks like Boroda, genozaur and yourself because you once lived under communism, they react the way they do because of the words you type out on this forum.

Sieg oder Bolschewismus!!!

Vad · « **Reply #43 on:** June 08, 2005, 01:37:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Yer kiddin, right?

"what did communism ever do to you"?

Vad, ok; are YOU a communist?

Speak up.. it's a free country.

No, I am not a communist. My shares in some of Russian companies a little bit contradict with ideas of Russian Communist Party, so I prefer to be apart.

Hangtime · « **Reply #44 on:** June 08, 2005, 01:53:13 AM »

Ok, so what's with the indignant wailing?

Just as a FYI.. my generation fought communisim.. hot wars. Not just cold. With better than 104,000 american servicemen dead between Korea and Vietnam, the riots and civil unrest here in this country during vietnam directed, funded and led by the american communist party....

Vad, I have been spit upon right here in my own country by home grown commies, shot at by the export models and attended the funerals of friends killed by the russain speaking kind.

Read 'Black Book of Communisim'. 60 million dead worldwide, thanks to the 'benign' totalitarian system of government you seek to whitewash.

Don't pretend that Americans have no reason to hate communists or communisim... not Here. not Now. not Ever.