Carrier Fight (what I would like to see)

[Karash]

I would really like to see and participate in a large scale CV battle...mid 1942 or 43 era planes.  Something like 4 CV groups per side about 25 to 40 miles apart (starting out).  We could have designated fleet commanders so it doesn't get too hectic.

How do the jap planes match up with the American ones (yes I am a dweeb)?  Maybe ban the Hog and go with FM2s or something I dont know.  Jabo would be a huge problem for the jap side (if we even had sides).

Has anyone done a Midway special event yet?  Maybe something like that.  I would imagine the battle would take long to complete...or we could say the CV group's cruisers have to be sunk before attacks on the CV take place, but that a bit too micromanaging.

Thoughts?  Is this possible?  Could we get like 200 pilots on for this?

[Karash]

Oh yea...I would say unlimited lives on pilots...going through the CV ack storm is quite rediculous (I would imagine even harder if 4 CV groups were near each other)

[Clifra Jones]

Originally posted by Karash
I would really like to see and participate in a large scale CV battle...
Has anyone done a Midway special event yet?  

Thoughts?  Is this possible?  Could we get like 200 pilots on for this?

Doubt it. It would be really hard to get the required amount of participation. Other problem with this type of scenario is that to make it realistic you would not know where the other CV groups are at the start, therefor it would require both sides to fly extensive patrol flights to locate the CVs. This would literally require an all-day event, with some folks flying 2-3 hour patrol flights and others just waiting around for the call to action.

Now if you wanted to just do a CV task group dual, announce the locations of the opposition carriers and go at it. You might get some peeps to jump on that.

[Karash]

Not really, we can say "Japs in 8 - 4 somewhere", and "Yanks in 9 - 5 somewhere"...we can definately say that recon has already spotted the enemy, and that we are doing the scramble now.

How the fleet commanders move their boats around is another issue.  I would think you would want to get near each other for some 8" action between the two...but who knows.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Karash
How do the jap planes match up with the American ones (yes I am a dweeb)?  Maybe ban the Hog and go with FM2s or something I dont know.  Jabo would be a huge problem for the jap side (if we even had sides).

We have a 1937 Japanese dive bomber and a 1938 Japanese torpedo bomber against a 1943 American dive bomber and a 1943 American torpedo bomber.

Take a guess at how they match up.

[Sikboy]

You should check out Special Events. We ran the Battle of The Coral Sea in April and May. It was almost what you're Asking for.

One thing though, until they get a mid-war carrier strike plane the Japanese won't be competitive after 1942 IMHO.

Anyhow, here's a thread with some screenshots in it.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150115

-Sik

[Karash]

Yea not too great of a matchup for sure...

If we had fair sides maybe we would have to restrict the Jabos in some ways (or just drop the Jap vs Yank thing entirely).  Another issue is the FM2 vs the Zeke...how does that matchup go?

[Clifra Jones]

Originally posted by Karash
Not really, we can say "Japs in 8 - 4 somewhere", and "Yanks in 9 - 5 somewhere"...we can definately say that recon has already spotted the enemy, and that we are doing the scramble now.

How the fleet commanders move their boats around is another issue.  I would think you would want to get near each other for some 8" action between the two...but who knows.

True, but as I said, "to be realistc", you would not know this. The Japs only found one US carrier at Midway.

As I said, I would not mind a carrier battle circa '42. The planes of that era are loads of fun. I just don't think you get enough folks for 7 task groups though.

[Karash]

Thanks for the thread sik...I will definately try to sign up for the next one!

I would still love to see a huge battle though 4v4 or 5v5 CV action with lots of pilots, gunners, etc...

The special events I have joined before rarely had over 40 pilots total in them

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Karash
Yea not too great of a matchup for sure...

If we had fair sides maybe we would have to restrict the Jabos in some ways (or just drop the Jap vs Yank thing entirely).  Another issue is the FM2 vs the Zeke...how does that matchup go?

In Coral Sea we limited the SBDs to a 500 pound bombload, that helped out a lot. The CMs did extensive work with the ord lethality and the ship hardness too, which really upped the stakes. When my side was USN, it took two full strikes before we were able to sink anything. As IJN we had a better time of it, manging to sink at least one CV on the initial strike.

-Sik

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Karash
Thanks for the thread sik...I will definately try to sign up for the next one!

I would still love to see a huge battle though 4v4 or 5v5 CV action with lots of pilots, gunners, etc...

The special events I have joined before rarely had over 40 pilots total in them

The Events that have the most participation are the Scenarios and Squadron Operations.

Scenarios only run every 3-4 months, but if you watch the BBS you will have plenty of time to register. Squadron Operations run every month, but you have to be a pilot with a Registered squadron to participate. If you are interested, post a message on the "Squadron Operations" board, and I'm sure some squad(s) will offer you a guest spot in the next one (Which is tomorrow night).

Both of these events generally have well over 100 players.

As for the 4v4 or 5v5 Carrier Duel, I think the only time you might see that in a special event would be the CAP event when it restarts (hopefully soon).

-Sik

[Callisto]

Should have participated in Corral Sea.. it was a BLAST!

[SkyRock]

You should have flown in the Coral Sea Battle scenario!  It was a blast.  F4F's against A6M2's  it was sweet! It sounds like this scenario was just what youre talking about.

[Karash]

Yea I am totally sad that I missed it....damn

[lasersailor184]

You guys do know how they did it during the war, right?


They sent 3 different groups at the same time.  1 fighter group, 1 divebomber group and 1 torpedo group.


The fleets don't have the power to defend against torpedos and bombs.  One or the other is getting through.