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« on: June 11, 2005, 03:52:10 AM »
I want ....i want this for AH also.





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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2005, 03:21:13 PM »
oooooo thats sexy. Me want, me want now. Mommy can I get on in the next patch please?:D

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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2005, 05:22:54 AM »
Dutch B-25's were rather post-war, however some Dutch planes would be nice :)

The game already looks quite AH-ish, what is it?

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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2005, 09:11:43 AM »
Read this frank they where operated during wo2

U can read remnants of the dutch airforce from indonesia moved to australia and fight on.

http://navyleag.customer.netspace.net.au/sd_05nei.htm

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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2005, 03:07:32 PM »
i did think the dutch never fought as a nation during ww2..i know they had many many  very brave partisans... but im sure they never had an airforce which used b25s.. maybe after the war they did, and if so then no to the skin...

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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2005, 03:46:10 PM »
Ok i copied a piece of the link:

Netherlands East Indies B25 Mitchell bombers in Canberra 1942.
The NEI had ordered and paid for aircraft from the US and three squadrons were formed in Australia. No.18 Squadron formed in Canberra on 7 APril 1942 flew its B25 Mitchell bombers. The majority of the aircrew were Dutch, mostly from the NEI. Others came from Dutch training courses run in the USA and the rest were Australians. Most groundcrew were Australians from the RAAF. The B25s formed a composite squadron within the RAAF that flew over 900 operational sorties during WW2.
Australian War Memorial Photo PO 1818.010.

In June 1942 the squadron consisted of 242 Dutch and 206 Australians. The Squadron was commanded by Dutch officers but was under the operational command of the RAAF, being part of 79 Wing.
An early success was the sinking, on 5 June 1942, of a Japanese midget submarine 115 km east of Sydney by Captain Gus Winckel in a B25. Apparently the midget submarine, having just attacked Sydney, was lost and so unable to rendezvous with the mother ship when sighted on the surface.
Later in the war, No.18 Squadron moved to Bachelor in the Northern Territory, and flew missions to the north of Australia and back over the NEI.
From there they moved into the South West Pacific, operating from a number of fields, and eventually flying over 900 operational sorties.

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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2005, 04:05:08 PM »
Ah! I never knew that! I thought you meant in Holland itself, but we indeed fought in Indonesia.

Thanks for sharing, good reading

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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2005, 04:31:02 PM »
Kitty hawks also:

 The other squadron was No 120, flying Kittyhawks in New Guinea. They operated from the Dutch base at Merauke (in the south of what today is called West Irian) providing air defence for Merauke and contributing generally to the allied effort in the region.
Throughout, they worked closely with the RAAF Kittyhawk squadrons, training with them and at times sharing maintenance and other support.
Several thousand Dutch refugees had escaped to Australia in 1942 and the Netherlands East Indies Government-in-Exile was based in Brisbane during 1944-45, the only foreign government established in Australia during the war.
Along with the Dutch Armed Service personnel, this brought the number of Dutch people in Australia during the war to well over 10 000.

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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2005, 04:36:43 PM »
In europe:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/history/marshall/military/airforce/bombers/US.bombers/b25.22

The Mitchell II was also issued to No. 320 (Dutch) Squadron in
September of 1943.  This squadron had been formed in June 1940 from
personnel of the Royal Dutch Naval Air Service who had reached England
following the occupation of Holland by the Germans.  They carried out
operations in Europe against gun
emplacements, railway yards, bridges,
troops, and other tactical targets.  320 Squadron moved to Belgium in
October 1944 and flew tactical missions until VE Day.

These had british markings but the ones in the pacific had their dutch flags on it. Like the screenshot wich is from Il2+AEP+PF.

 I really like it oleg doesn't forget the dutch, hey its forgotten battles after all.

They added dutch voices and a campain. Even the pilots wear dutch uniforms.
A map of a part sumatra with singapore
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2005, 04:57:43 PM »
Wow they even speak Dutch in the game? That's darn realistic! Must be with English subtitles ofcourse? (Pff you people can't read a thing can you...)

What do they say?

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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2005, 06:49:13 PM »
vliegtuig op je staart

help

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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2005, 07:38:52 AM »
Zeggen ze ook 'witte muizen?'

Dat zou pas leuk zijn.

Back to English:

A Dutch AH squadron would be nice, but I don't fly enough to really participate in that or help organizing it.

But I propose the name 'White mice' for it!

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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2005, 03:21:09 AM »
Don't translate 'white mice' it's like I would change my name 'Timmerman' into 'carpenter' just because it's english.

Those 'foreigners don't deserve to understand it :D