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Offline outbreak

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« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2005, 09:46:51 PM »
oh well lol AH2 is still good without it =[ just thought id post hehe hate runnin outa fuel after killin peeps:mad:

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« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2005, 03:17:28 AM »
This list (from an other game) is a good
list for AH2 too. What do you think ?

http://www.savagesquadron.com/GEpage/SavagePlanesGE.htm

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« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2005, 01:44:07 AM »
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No it wasn't, it wasnt untill the cold war that aerial refueling became common practice.  




Short S.30 flying boat G-AFCU 'Cabot' and Harrow tanker G-AFRL, 1939 trans-Atlantic service



US Army air Corps C-2A "Question Mark" with C-1 refueller, 1929

Probably wasn't considered "common" however, and certainly not in a tactical environment.
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« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2005, 06:51:01 PM »
Personally I still would like to see the B-25 Mitchell and the DO-335 Donier Arrow introduced into the game. Both saw action although the 335 was only 2 squadrons, 1 training and 1 combat it still saw action.

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« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2005, 05:55:39 PM »
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Try this:  F6F-3, F6F-3N, and F6F-5N


I was told that Skyraider enter service just in days before WWII ended since first prototype Skyraider was first flown in March 18, 1945.  Skyraiders were supposed to replace Curtiss SB2C Helldriver during WWII and after the War, production of A-1s increased and replaced Curtiss SB2C Helldriver before Korean Conflict.


F7F Tigercat were too late to see action in WWII and same for F8F Bearcat, but Bearcat came close than Tigercat.


Actully the F7F was in service in 1944...it just wasnt deployed. Same as the meteor...the allied planes are discriminated against based on deployment not true availability....which is bogus. You say 1st "prototype" skyraider flew in march 45...well the F7F entered actual service in May 1944. The protoype flew in December 1943 and the 1st production birds were DELIVERED in April 1944. The first F8F was delivered on May 19, 1945 to VF-19....more than a year after the F7F entered active service. The F7F was delayed primarily due to spin recovery issues during flight testing...but had we really needed to it would have been deployed in June of 1944...

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« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2005, 08:11:44 PM »
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Actully the F7F was in service in 1944...it just wasnt deployed. Same as the meteor...the allied planes are discriminated against based on deployment not true availability....which is bogus. You say 1st "prototype" skyraider flew in march 45...well the F7F entered actual service in May 1944. The protoype flew in December 1943 and the 1st production birds were DELIVERED in April 1944. The first F8F was delivered on May 19, 1945 to VF-19....more than a year after the F7F entered active service. The F7F was delayed primarily due to spin recovery issues during flight testing...but had we really needed to it would have been deployed in June of 1944...

Again.

The Grumman F7F Tigercat and F8F Bearcat is still "Post War" fighters that never saw any action in World War II and yes they both  did deployed in early years before 1945, but doesn't mean that they saw action in WWII.  

For Gloster Meteor Jet Fighter.  The Gloster Meteor fought V-1 and V-2 rockets, and also served on the other side of the channel looking for Me 262s and Me 163s.  The Meteor jet fighter shot down 13 V1/V2 Rockets (Unsure about V2 Rockets) in August 1944 before the pilots of No. 616 Sqdn. receive Meteor Mk. III in January 1945.

Technical problems and changing requirements led to production delays. The handsome Tigercat arrived too late to see combat in World War II, despite having made its first flight in November 1943. It was the first Navy fighter to have tricycle landing gear and was powered by two Pratt & Whitney R-2800 engines. The last of 364 Tigercats was delivered in November 1946.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f7f.htm

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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/past.htm
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« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2005, 08:03:25 AM »
Right Holden, they used to see how long they could stay up.  Trying for days-weeks at a time.  Mechanical problems plagued most if not all of the attempts.  They had it, but it wasn't used in WW2.
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« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2005, 10:48:22 AM »
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Again.

The Grumman F7F Tigercat and F8F Bearcat is still "Post War" fighters that never saw any action in World War II and yes they both  did deployed in early years before 1945, but doesn't mean that they saw action in WWII.  

For Gloster Meteor Jet Fighter.  The Gloster Meteor fought V-1 and V-2 rockets, and also served on the other side of the channel looking for Me 262s and Me 163s.  The Meteor jet fighter shot down 13 V1/V2 Rockets (Unsure about V2 Rockets) in August 1944 before the pilots of No. 616 Sqdn. receive Meteor Mk. III in January 1945.

Technical problems and changing requirements led to production delays. The handsome Tigercat arrived too late to see combat in World War II, despite having made its first flight in November 1943. It was the first Navy fighter to have tricycle landing gear and was powered by two Pratt & Whitney R-2800 engines. The last of 364 Tigercats was delivered in November 1946.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f7f.htm

For more other aircraft information, check out here:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/past.htm


The F7F is NOT a "post war" fighter. It was actually delivered to the fleet in april of 1944. As you stated the meteor was used extensively in an operational role. Technically even the P-80 was operational in Italy before the wars end. Eventually all the spin requirements for the F7F were waived...had the plane been needed it would have been in large scale combat use by 9/44. This was neither a "late war" fighter (dev begun in 1942) or a "prototype only" bird. It'a a true 1944 fighter that was "held back" simply because the perceived issues on flight handling created enough doubt to sidetrack combat deployment. Technically it's not even a "latewar" bird. This arbitrary "saw combat" arguement is bogus....its a flight sim not a recreation. Should it be avaivlable in scenario's...of course not (unless what if)...but as part of the planeset...sure. Same with the Meteor...or any other plane that was operationally deployed as of 12/31/44 in Europe and 3/45 in Pac (random dates that would allow a combat squad to be operational before the end of the war).

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« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2005, 02:33:04 PM »
If it didnt shoot something down it shouldnt be part of AH, barring the creation of a hypothetical post-'45 arena. (exception for unarmed aircraft that did play a serious role like the c47)

Unlike the P-80, F7F, and F8F, the Meteor DID shoot down V-1's.

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« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2005, 03:46:36 PM »
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If it didnt shoot something down it shouldnt be part of AH, barring the creation of a hypothetical post-'45 arena. (exception for unarmed aircraft that did play a serious role like the c47)

Unlike the P-80, F7F, and F8F, the Meteor DID shoot down V-1's.

I agree, that what I was going say.

That's include:

Bell P-59 Aircomet
Goodyear F2G-1 & -2 Super Corsair
Hawker Sea Fury
North American P-82 Twin Mustang (Later F-82)
North American P-86 Sabre (Later F-86)

Other "Uber" aircraft that have deployed before, but no mission.
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