Author Topic: So, we getting a P-47N! (Read 1513 times)

Spongebob · « **Reply #30 on:** July 02, 2005, 07:37:45 PM »

Those are good aguments Wotan. However you are seeing the addition through CT and TOD glasses. Nobody flies in the CT much (I have and enjoyed it) and obviously nobody flies in TOD yet, nor Knows exactly what it's going to be.

BTW - It wasn't you who was *****in' about adding the N, Some folks at the beginning of the post were.

I'm willing to bet the N will be very popular in the MA, where most everyone flies - plus everyone loves a hotrod. I'd call it good bang for the buck considering it was an easy add, which I'm sure is their prime motivation. They just throwin the masses some candy cause it's cheap

You won't see any new models till they done with TOD and I'm certain they will fill holes at that time. You do understand the difference between adding new models and new variants of existing planes right?

You may still get your P47C who knows. I will concede that they could have added an early war jug in preparation for TOD. If they just wanted to do one new Jug however, they picked the right one.

respectfully

Magoo

bozon · « **Reply #31 on:** July 03, 2005, 02:47:24 AM »

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Originally posted by Pooface
tell me truthfully, have you ever taken a 47 into a dogfight and won????? im not talking about B n' Z, im talking about dogfight.

ROFLMAO

You are asking Frenchy if he ever dogfought in a jug and won ?!?!

You might be relatively new and don't know the 56th FG. It's a dedicated jug squadron that has been in AH for years and the main activity is air-to-air dogfights.

Bozon

Nilsen · « **Reply #32 on:** July 03, 2005, 02:50:18 AM »

hi bozon

exciting news isnt it?

bozon · « **Reply #33 on:** July 03, 2005, 03:26:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Sancho
People keep forgetting the published weight and climb figures are for the P-47N with full fuel. And this thing carried a crap load of fuel--remember, it outdistances a P-51 in range and its a jug for chrissake. Try and think of how it will perform in MA loadout with 50 or 25% fuel. I'm not expecting 109G10 performance, but it's going to be significantly better than what we have now. Look at the P-47M numbers to get an idea.

The monster had almost 100 gallons in each wing (I find various data between 93 to 100 gallons, If anyone can correct me please do). So it's 200 gallons extra to the 370 gallons the D has. Just for comparison, the 100% fuel load of a 109 is 106 gallons ! You can fuel 5 109s with this fuel load with some to spare...

The D40 when at 25% already climbs at ~3500 fpm. With the many extra horses the N will break the 4000 imo. Although a little weight was added, the wing area has also increased (from 300 to 322 sqf) so the wingloading is similar when fuel loads are the same. It will not be a fast plane in AH. The amazing 467 mph is achieved at 37kft. below 10k it will not make 400 mph while many other planes can.

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hi bozon

exciting news isnt it?

Yes, too bad I can't run AH now. I'll get a new computer soon... I hope. I will not be able to resist the new jugs

Nilsen · « **Reply #34 on:** July 03, 2005, 03:42:08 AM »

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Originally posted by bozon
Yes, too bad I can't run AH now. I'll get a new computer soon... I hope. I will not be able to resist the new jugs

Same problem here, my windows box is too old, and my new mac is pretty useless for AH.

Im hoping to be back sometime this fall.

SMIDSY · « **Reply #35 on:** July 04, 2005, 04:39:34 AM »

ALL RIGHT!! now i can fly a plane with the speed of a corsair with the range of a P-38 and the firepower of the good ol jug...hehe "jug"

PS
when can we expect this new aircraft?

Nilsen · « **Reply #36 on:** July 04, 2005, 04:53:37 AM »

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Originally posted by SMIDSY
ALL RIGHT!! now i can fly a plane with the speed of a corsair with the range of a P-38 and the firepower of the good ol jug...hehe "jug"

PS
when can we expect this new aircraft?

I would guess...

2 weeks

moot · « **Reply #37 on:** July 04, 2005, 05:58:19 AM »

So what we're getting won't be a clipped wing version?

Nilsen · « **Reply #38 on:** July 04, 2005, 06:03:46 AM »

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Originally posted by moot
So what we're getting won't be a clipped wing version?

The N version is "clipped"

As far as i know there is no "unclipped" N

Spongebob · « **Reply #39 on:** July 04, 2005, 08:46:43 AM »

I wonder if we'll get a neutered version of the N, compared to our expectations, such as what the Ki84 guys got? What I mean is that more than a few folks wanted a speed demon Frank-enstein to compete with the reviled La-7 and I'm seeing some similarities in the anticipation of the N's capabilities. BTW - I'm not saying that the Ki84 isn't a good plane in AH mind you, just not exactly what we thought it might be.

Of course there is probably more data available on the N to make nailing down a flight model easier...

Magoo

moot · « **Reply #40 on:** July 04, 2005, 09:20:31 AM »

Thanks Nilsen.

TexMurphy · « **Reply #41 on:** July 04, 2005, 09:40:40 AM »

@mipoikel

I doubt that is a N... its got birds cage cockpit...

Tex

Guppy35 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 04, 2005, 06:25:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
The N version is "clipped"

As far as i know there is no "unclipped" N

"Clipped' is really not accurate as it implies a shorter wing, at least to me.

The N had a larger wing then the previous models. They added an 18 inch stub on each side between the fuselage and wing panels. Each 18" stub carried 100 gallons of additional fuel. The wing area was the largest of any of the jugs. While the wings were then squared off, they were definately not shorter.

Dan/CorkyJr