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Offline Dnil

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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2005, 05:13:25 PM »
You can put me in for moderating if ya like.  I check the boards nonstop all day.  Have since the game came out.  

Glad to have the club back.

Offline spitfiremkv

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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2005, 05:15:03 PM »
I think I will be a lot more considerate in my posts from now on.
HTC, thanks for reopening this forum.

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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2005, 05:17:01 PM »
Wouldnt having them known can also cause some animosity.
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2005, 05:17:01 PM »
Prejudice and bias are all perspectives.  Someone will always accuse a moderator of bias or prejudice.  The very nature of the task requires the moderator to make judgement calls, which makes them biased.

The bias should be towards the goal to be reached.
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2005, 05:18:42 PM »
Sandman, what might be better is to have the moderators known to the other moderators. This would at least eliminate the possibilty of one of the moderators being "ridden out of town on a rail."

Let the moderators, moderate each other. I would hate to see anyone swarmed over a decision that he or she made, right or wrong.

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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2005, 05:22:47 PM »
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Originally posted by RTR
Sandman, what might be better is to have the moderators known to the other moderators. This would at least eliminate the possibilty of one of the moderators being "ridden out of town on a rail."

Let the moderators, moderate each other. I would hate to see anyone swarmed over a decision that he or she made, right or wrong.

Cheers,
RTR


That's a good compromise. :aok

Of course, you do know that there will immediately be a thread dedicated to the "guess who the mod is" game.
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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2005, 05:23:19 PM »
I nominate Toad and Sandman.

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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2005, 05:23:34 PM »
Unbiased is not only impossible, its unnecessary.  So is being anonymous.Everybody has an opinion.  What is needed is a group that are honest enough to enforce the ROC that HTC wants put in place - whether they personally agree with it or not - and won't play favorites.  Everybody's gripe with the ingame moderators is that enforcement is not fairly or evenly applied.  They are anonymous, doesn't stop people from badmouthing them.  Moderators don't need to be anonymous, and they dont need to be unbiased.  They just need to be honest and fair.

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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2005, 05:23:56 PM »
You could have like a security counsel made up of permanant members that can vote on issues and work together to ensure BBS peace......It could be called the Uni......wait..thats already been done.

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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2005, 05:24:01 PM »
My previous nominations, plus two more:

Toad
Furball
Sandman
LePaul
Gunslinger
Ripsnort (not sure how much time he has for O'Clubbing these days though)

Would not want them to be anonymous...no need.

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« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2005, 05:25:51 PM »
I 2nd the vote for Seagoon, Nash and Sandman! Just go read their previous posts. Always intelligent, coherent, and respectful.

g00b
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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2005, 05:26:10 PM »
In response:

Things I thought were "unacceptable": (And I'm not saying I never did any of this stuff. I'm not casting stones in my glass house.)

1. Ad hominem attacks, attacks on the poster not the ideas posted. We'd eliminate a lot of problems is we cut out the ad hominems.

For those unclear as to ad hominem:

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An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.

Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:


Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A's claim is false.



2. Obscenities. Even the clever little ways folks try to bypass the BBS language filter, like with misspellings.

An old Ops Officer once told me "Vulgarity is the first recourse of the truly unimaginative."

Anyway, they add nothing to the discussion. We can do without.


3. PrOn, of course. This place should be worksafe so the desk slaves can check it to enhance their daily grind.


Things I think are acceptable and should be in here.

1. Life events; birthdays, injuries, getting a pilot's license, marriages, etc. This stuff makes people real, enhances the sense of community.

2. The obviously "normal" stuff.. flying, bbq, hot rods, photography, etc.

3. News. People are going to discuss the latest world/national/local news and weather.

4. Politics. Yep; part of life, an interesting part. No reason it can't be discussed with a little respect and polite discourse on all sides.

5. Religion. Yep; part of life, an interesting part. No reason it can't be discussed with a little respect and polite discourse on all sides.

6. Other miscellaneous items.

They key, however, is showing some basic decency and respect. All else flows from that.


I'm glad it's back. Somebody tell me if I slip into jerk mode. It's only a keystroke away for any of us on any given day.  ;)

Thanks!
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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2005, 05:29:21 PM »
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Originally posted by crowMAW
My previous nominations, plus two more:

Toad
Furball
Sandman
LePaul
Gunslinger
Ripsnort (not sure how much time he has for O'Clubbing these days though)

Would not want them to be anonymous...no need.


I would think the O Club needs new blood to moderate. I nominate Myself and Navajoboy
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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2005, 05:29:46 PM »
I'd like to nominate:
Seagoon (but he won't do it)
Nash
Leslie
Toad
MT
sand

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« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2005, 05:31:46 PM »
Limiting the number of monitors to just a few will turn a part time hobby into a part time job.  I honestly think that 20 or more mods would be ideal.  Some folks might only be on for an hour a day; with a lot of mods there will most likely always be someone on.  Bad threads/posts wouldn’t last long.  You don’t want to create a situation where folks feel obligated to check the boards and make sure that the kids are behaving.  It would be best to choose folks who are here a lot anyway, and who already post a lot.  It would also be wise to pick folks from a variety of time zones.

Most importantly, I think it would be wise to choose one or two “Chief Mods” whose job is to handle complaints about mods and keep them in line.  You don’t want a situation where you have daily complaints about Nazi mods who delete threads; then you’d have to  figure out what happened and who said what, etc.

Give the mods their own forum for reporting incidents, bans, sheduals, etc.

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