Author Topic: O'club discussion (Read 11619 times)

Habu · « **Reply #45 on:** June 15, 2005, 05:45:15 PM »

BTW thanyou Pyro for bringing in back. And thanks to Straffo for putting aside past differences and supporting my point of view.

JB73 · « **Reply #46 on:** June 15, 2005, 05:45:44 PM »

again i offer to be a moderator, thought i don't i'd have any backers.

i still stick by my thoughts that it will be hard to keep them "anonymous" without seperate login handles, and also if a moderator gets "edited" himself that is grounds for losing the moderator privlidge

thank you Pyro for opening the o'club back up.

Karnak · « **Reply #47 on:** June 15, 2005, 05:46:40 PM »

Toad,

Good list.

Another thing that people should try to avoid is strawman arguments where somebody makes a claim and then another either distorts it beyond reason or makes up something entirely different and tears it apart, then claiming that they won.

Made up examples:

lazs: American citizens have the right to carry firearms and silly things like assault weapon bans and clip bans are unconstituional.

Karnak: Yeah, fine. Then when some psycho blows up a city instead of shooting up an office because he is allowed to bear arms and so has a nuke you'll be fine and dandy with it?

In this made up example I had lazs take a position on an issue and then had myself go off into lala land and argue against a position, private ownership of nuclear weapons, that he never advocated. By doing so I never entered a debate with him, I just debated with an insane person in my mind. ;p

NUKE · « **Reply #48 on:** June 15, 2005, 05:46:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
I appreciate the nominations... and yeah.. I'd give it a go.

We have moderator number one, gentlemen!

Let's here it from Toad now and we're rolling.

Toad · « **Reply #49 on:** June 15, 2005, 05:51:36 PM »

Wow. Lot of posts while I was writing my Epistle.

As for the Mods, I agree with Eskimo. The more the merrier in general. Initially, this board probably does need a large "police force".

I hate listing some because I'll leave some good ones out. I apologize in advance.

Seagoon, Sandman, MT, Nash, Straffo, Nashwan, GhostFT, Sparks, Laz, Oboe, Wotan, Maverick, Eskimo, Charon, Thrawn, Funked, Holden, Crow, Slapshot, Karnak, Gunslinger, Silat, Nilsen (but we have to put a sobriety interlock on his keyboard on the weekends

).

These are all guys that are around a bunch and I just never see them really out of line; they usually can make a cogent argument and seem to be able to see both sides of an issue.

I'm sure I left some out, but that's off the top of my head.

Now, Known or Unknown?

I'm not sure. My "gut feel" is that if we pin a badge on these guys we're going to see the "young guns" that just have to call them out into the street.

Now if we make them anonymous, you have the MA situation. The job gets done, people still whine but it generally dies down pretty quick when they realize they have no one to really whine at.

I'll toss out one other possibility. Generic nametags.. Mod1, Mod2, etc.

As someone mentioned we could have a "Mod forum" where the indignant could go for summary judgement.

They could post that they'd been unfairly moderated and give a link to the thread. A few Mods could check it out and give their views briefly. In short, feedback. In this forum, Mods should be able to delete excessive replies. The injured parties state their case, give the link and zip it. Excessive crying in there would just get deleted. Posts from any but the injured parties and the mods gets deleted.

The bonus is the original moderator will see what his peers think about the issue. Kind of a check/balance thing, which I like.

I'm not sure the Mods really need to be know to each other if they have generic name tags. Eventually, they'll "learn" each other from that.

Besides, there's many typing characteristics (telltales or "tells) that will give folks away. I'm sure I have at least a half a dozen of those ..... know what I mean?

There's my .01.

Oh, LePaul and MiniD are already doing a decent job over at Check6 too.

Nilsen · « **Reply #50 on:** June 15, 2005, 05:57:55 PM »

Toad... just by suggesting a sobrity lock for me shows that you know enough (maybe too much

) about me to get my vote too. And so does the rest of your list... except for GhostFT cause he is a Schumi fan

......j/k Ghost

anywho.. a mod forum vould be a good idea.

LePaul · « **Reply #51 on:** June 15, 2005, 06:02:13 PM »

Me? Nominated by a MAW? Wow. They DID finally forgive me for leaving the squad

Moderating? Hmm...well, I wouldnt mind. Be nice to help out. But I can also understand if they'd see a conflict of interest with my own forums.

But thanks

crowMAW · « **Reply #52 on:** June 15, 2005, 06:02:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Nilsen (but we have to put a sobriety interlock on his keyboard on the weekends ).

What, you don't like when he says things like:

(*@#&$*&%#@# shlubbernuffle ^$#^%# HAHAHAH...iguana.

But more importantly...will Toad serve as a mod?

SOB · « **Reply #53 on:** June 15, 2005, 06:03:35 PM »

If you're short on volunteers, I'd be happy to help, as I haven't done much in the way of volunteering since I got here.

I haven't been around much lately, but I'd have to say Toad would make a good mod, and it looks like others agree. He's and old fart, and has probably picked up some wisdom along the way.

crowMAW · « **Reply #54 on:** June 15, 2005, 06:04:00 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
Me? Nominated by a MAW? Wow. They DID finally forgive me for leaving the squad

BD5 left the MAW??!!

eskimo2 · « **Reply #55 on:** June 15, 2005, 06:05:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
I assumed that the "Chief Mods" are HTC.

HTC would certainly be above the "Chief Mods", but the entire point of "Chief Mods" is to take pressure/time off of HTC.

Eskimo

eskimo2 · « **Reply #56 on:** June 15, 2005, 06:06:38 PM »

I nominate:

Toad - (Chief Mod)
Nilsen - (Chief Mod)
Midnight Target - (Chief Mod)
Eagler
Daddog
DREDIOCK
Chairboy
Seagoon
Furball
LePaul
Nash
Sandman
Mini D
JB73 (if he gets rid of the titty shakin child porn avatar)

ASTAC · « **Reply #57 on:** June 15, 2005, 06:10:27 PM »

I nominate myself. I'd like to help in any way I can to keep the O'Club alive.

I read the board all the time, and have alot of time to put into it. I think most of my posts have been on the moderate side and I never intetionally attack/flame.

Not wanting power here. Just love the O'club discussions and don't want to see it die permanently.

JB73 · « **Reply #58 on:** June 15, 2005, 06:14:00 PM »

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Originally posted by eskimo2
JB73 (if he gets rid of the titty shakin child porn avatar)

heck i will even clear my "ignore" list fully.

my feeling is like ASTAC, i'd rather be not liked, and have to do some work than see the o'club disappear

Sandman · « **Reply #59 on:** June 15, 2005, 06:14:05 PM »

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Originally posted by eskimo2
HTC would certainly be above the "Chief Mods", but the entire point of "Chief Mods" is to take pressure/time off of HTC.

Eskimo

Well... if a few guys can do it and do it well, they shouldn't need much minding by HTC.

Given schedules and the like, I would hope that as little as four could handle it. IMHO, the moderators should be a team and would have to act like one. Getting twenty onboard will be like herding cats.