Thats my point. Those of us who are willing to spend part of our time in the MA to help these guys are being turned off from the idea by the very people we are supposed to be helping. Only a small percentage want to take the time to go to the TA, and we cant really send them there in the middle of the night and expect them to find a trainer there. I hesitate to use the .report feature becuase the guys are new for cryin out loud! Sure, they are first class butt-nuggets and don't listen, but I don't want to report people who dont even understand what they did wrong. I had one that got mad because there was no way to turn off the "HUD" as he called it (he wanted a way to remove the console and all the guages lol). I had another one that was using the help channel to instruct newbs on the wonders of "alt + F4" for fixing all their problems. When I confronted him he threatened to report ME for harassing him! That one's gonna last. lol