Author Topic: Awwww... what happened to "Fight To The DEATH!!!" (Read 1521 times)

Toad · « **on:** December 06, 2001, 07:37:00 AM »

USA Today is reporting that Mullah Omar is surrendering Kandahar to the opposition forces.

Surrendering Taliban to be offered amnesty... except poor Omar... The "Soup
Afghan" said "NO amnesty for YOU!"

Non-surrendering Taliban may be allowed to evacuate the city... under the kindly, watchful eyes of American airpower, most likely. (Hint to Talibs: Don't ride in or on a tank during the evac.)

I have this vision of Omar and the remaining Talib leaders sitting around the table, sipping tea and reviewing the action. One guys says "Ya know, Omar... maybe we should have just given them bin Laden...."

[ 12-06-2001: Message edited by: Toad ]

Boroda · « **Reply #1 on:** December 06, 2001, 08:25:00 AM »

If they gave up Bin Laden - they should have become a scarecrow for the whole Moslim world. Betraying a guest who asked for shelter - it's impossible for their culture and religion...

That Omar is a poor poor bastard. No guts. Situation is similiar with Chechnya. Now Federal forces fight mostly Arab mercenaries who get cash for every Russian soldier or officer killed.

Zigrat · « **Reply #2 on:** December 06, 2001, 09:55:00 AM »

why couldnt the russkies kick the afghans bellybutton in 10 years boroda but we did it in 2 months

hmm

Tac · « **Reply #3 on:** December 06, 2001, 09:59:00 AM »

That's low ziggy

US failed on its own dark war back then, dont forget that.

Anyway, its good to see the Taliban is on the run. Im sure laden's camel is ready to start humping HIM for a change *G*

Pongo · « **Reply #4 on:** December 06, 2001, 10:03:00 AM »

They were fighting the seaky smart afgans that fought a real guerrilla war. We got the handsomehunk arrogant afgans that never went to the hills to make it costly the minute the USAF showed up. If the US doesnt get out of there when their job is done they will find there are still lots of sneaky smart astudmuffinans.
The Talliban acctually occupied ridgline positions and dared the Stratofortresses to blast them off..
+ the increadable increase in capabilities of munitions and sensors in 20 years....
Really bad mistake to think the Soviets cant fight...its like the Germans judging the Red Army on what happend in Finland.

indian · « **Reply #5 on:** December 06, 2001, 10:27:00 AM »

TAC show me where Vietnam was a declared war!! You cant win under U.N rules.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #6 on:** December 06, 2001, 10:34:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Zigrat:
why couldnt the russkies kick the afghans bellybutton in 10 years boroda but we did it in 2 months

hmm

Ummm, because there were US-CIA agents helping the Afghans fight the war against the russians? Just a wild guess here, but I'm assuming the "Freedom fighters" who are now terrorists were US-backed...Russia was fighting two countries.

Raubvogel · « **Reply #7 on:** December 06, 2001, 10:36:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Zigrat:
why couldnt the russkies kick the afghans bellybutton in 10 years boroda but we did it in 2 months

hmm

Because the Taliban didn't have a superpower supplying them with Stingers and millions of dollars in aid.

Boroda · « **Reply #8 on:** December 06, 2001, 10:48:00 AM »

Zigrat, first - why do you ask?

Second - YOU didn't kick anyone's ass. NA riding Russian armour did.

Third - USSR didn't want to "kick Afghan's ass". They needed peace and stability, and they have succeeded. Withdrawal was a result of Western pressure and bold treason from Gorby. Look what happened there after 40th Army left and Gorby left the legal government without any assistance.

Fourth: why do you think we had to kick someone's ass? What for? Are we supposed to do so because TV told you so in the last 50 years or it is just a "civilized" way to solve problems? Have a problem - just find someone to kick his ass?

Looks like I'll get stuck in argument with another American patriot? It's like discussing something with my radio. Radio at least speaks Russian. This time I'll post the link somewhere on Russian forums. It's worth reading. The circus left, but the clowns stay.

Tac · « **Reply #9 on:** December 06, 2001, 10:50:00 AM »

"TAC show me where Vietnam was a declared war!! You cant win under U.N rules"

Actually, that war was not won because the politicians ran it. What's going on now is not a declared war either. UN rules? thats a joke right?

Pongo is right, you can't compare.

"Because the Taliban didn't have a superpower supplying them with Stingers and millions of dollars in aid"

Yep. Just as the N. Alliance now has complete air support and no doubt logistical and monetary support from the US & Allies. I think its very smart to let them do the fighting in the initial stages, its their country after all. Just burn the terrorist assets..and asses.

Kratzer · « **Reply #10 on:** December 06, 2001, 10:51:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort:

Russia was fighting two countries.

Exactly... the same can be said about Vietnam and the US.

Zigrat · « **Reply #11 on:** December 06, 2001, 11:09:00 AM »

boroda i was just goading you lol i wasnt serious

Boroda · « **Reply #12 on:** December 06, 2001, 11:14:00 AM »

Sad... I expected another nice flame

Toad · « **Reply #13 on:** December 06, 2001, 01:24:00 PM »

I now officially apologize to all for even thinking about starting this thread, let alone actually starting it.

Hangtime · « **Reply #14 on:** December 06, 2001, 03:30:00 PM »

Nah; don't apologise Toad, it's not necessary. The point is valid.

I might add that the fire at the WTC site is STILL burning. Good to see the USA/NA forces got the Taliban out of power before the fires here were extinguished..

Now, off to the Phillipines!