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[lada]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
It is the same topic.  The definition of marraige is what all the constranation is about.

Just because there are fewer folks who want it one way than another... is that a reason to ignore it?  There are more straight than gays who want to be married, so lets ignore the gays.
 

Your law already allow to be married with other person. So basicaly the only one thing whitch have to be allowed is marriage between people of same gender.
Polygamy is already excluded by that law, while gay,les marriage is not directly excluded.

But i agree..... these laws should be upgraded and Sharia would be good source

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage

Marriage is a relationship and bond, most commonly between a man and a woman, that plays a key role in the definition of many families.

Please note, that Bolt words doesnt mean only.
May be its time to fix education system

[AVRO1]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
in the US our govt does not legislate religion.  In fact when you get married it's through the GOVT that you get a marriage liscense not the church.  it's the GOVT that sets the rules reguarding marriage.  You don't have to be religious to get married.

No one's civil rights are being violated right now.  A gay person has the same right as a strait person.

Why didn't you answer my question ?

If you can tell them who they can marry then why can't they do the same to us ?

If marriage benefits are good for you then why are they not good for them ?

Until you answer those questions, you ain't worth responding to.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by lada
.... while gay marriage is not directly excluded....

It is in my state and many others.  The only state that allows gay marraige is Mass.

Although I did not directly discuss statues regarding marraige, which vary by state, (I commend your knowledge of each states' statutes regarding this issue) only that a marraige is not just between a couple, but also a recognition by those outside the couple that the relationship has achieved a certain status.

If you wish that society recognize that you, for instance, have achieved a certain level of competance at practicing medicine, then you have to know the rules that define that level of competancy.

If you wish that society recognize your relationship as a marraige, then you must meet the standards society spells out.

Gays want to change the rules rather than work within them.  If society is ready for that, so be it, but it appears that generally it is not, otherwise no controversy would exist.

[lada]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin


If you wish that society recognize your relationship as a marraige, then you must meet the standards society spells out.

Gays want to change the rules rather than work within them.  If society is ready for that, so be it, but it appears that generally it is not, otherwise no controversy would exist.

Ahhhaa.. so the only one problem is that word. You basicaly dont mind, that they could have same legal benefits, but you mind that they will describe those social benefits by the same word.

Is that correct ?

[Holden McGroin]

a rose by any other name....

This is not a semantics issue, it is an issue of fundamental societal change.

It is an issue of whether society accepts, as equal, relationships outside the traditional one-man-one-woman definition.

In western society, we have pretty much outlawed polygamy, but why?  What is it about multiple marraige that is bad, but gay marraige is okay?  Why can someone be sent to prizon for bigamy when all parties in the arrangement are satisfied?

Why is this different from the arguments in favor of gay marraige?

If you read carefully, you will note that nowhere in this thread have I indicated my opinion on whether I am opposed or in favor of gay marraige, I have just spelled out the issue.

[-tronski-]

wow...a hundred thousand catholics don't like gay marriage...theres a shock alright.....

Originally posted by lasersailor184
The problem isn't what two adults decide to do in their own home.


The problem is them going out into the public demanding that we see that there is nothing wrong with their lifestyle.

Well it when would seem the "public" are quite content to tell them what they can or can't do in their own homes...would should they do?

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Sorry for using a cliche', but should a married person be able to marry anyone they want?  They are people too, if all three or five or whatever want to marry, who are we to say no?

Answer:
In a civil or religious context, marriage is a societal approval of a relationship.  If you want approval of that society, you have to follow that society's rules.

True in most respects, but often "society" frowned on relationships in the past, which now seem completely normal...I personally believe this is the case with Gay marriage

 Tronsky

[Toad]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
If you read carefully, you will note that nowhere in this thread have I indicated my opinion on whether I am opposed or in favor of gay marraige, I have just spelled out the issue.

Exactly why you just can't be trusted  you conservative whackjob!


Just kidding! The above was a simple attempt at humor which may succeed or fail depending upon the reader. No offense should be taken by anyone. The statement is untrue and is meant as a comedic interlude.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by AVRO1
Why didn't you answer my question ?

If you can tell them who they can marry then why can't they do the same to us ?

If marriage benefits are good for you then why are they not good for them ?

Until you answer those questions, you ain't worth responding to.

who is "they" and how do I tell them anything other than with my vote?  The law stipulates what can and cannot be done.  Right now both gay and strait people have the SAME civil rights.  

If ever "they" were in the majority and started making laws to favor "they" then that would be that.  I'd still disagree with it.

They can enjoy the same benifits if "they" married somone else of the oppisite sex,  thus the definition of marriage.

[Skydancer]

" Just kidding! The above was a simple attempt at humor which may succeed or fail depending upon the reader. No offense should be taken by anyone. The statement is untrue and is meant as a comedic interlude."



Thats what I should use as my sig

Nice one.