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Offline straffo

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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2005, 03:24:36 AM »
Btw if you think it's a victory you're wrong , it's a defeat for the sport and especially for  Ferrari and the FIA.

What is a victory without competition ?
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2005, 03:25:10 AM »
It's Ferrari's fault that Michelin can't make an Indy tire?
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2005, 03:59:25 AM »
It's not what I'm trying to say.

I say to keep the competition and having a real victory Ferrari should have either accepted the modification or refuse to compete.

They prefered the easy way.
And this is a shame (for me at least).
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2005, 04:06:13 AM »
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Originally posted by straffo
What is a victory without competition ?


we all know it was easy for Schumey,
but ever heard about constructors championship?

i say, 1:0 for Ferrari/Bridgestone :aok



Straffo, lets see what kind of tires Michelin have ready for
the France GP in Magny-Cours, they better make it work hehe ;)
Hey who knows they maybe change the racetrack layout there
so the track fits theyr tires? I guess the first thing would be a shikane
in the bigbend curve right after the starting straight. *G*

Hey Nilsen, remember what i have said? 1. Schumi, 2nd Barri :)
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2005, 04:10:57 AM »
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Hey Nilsen, remember what i have said? 1. Schumi, 2nd Barri :)


unfair! :D

Ok, you win this round.
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2005, 04:22:43 AM »
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
we all know it was easy for Schumey,
but ever heard about constructors championship?

i say, 1:0 for Ferrari/Bridgestone :aok



Straffo, lets see what kind of tires Michelin have ready for
the France GP in Magny-Cours, they better make it work hehe ;)
Hey who knows they maybe change the racetrack layout there
so the track fits theyr tires? I guess the first thing would be a shikane
in the bigbend curve right after the starting straight. *G*

Hey Nilsen, remember what i have said? 1. Schumi, 2nd Barri :)


It's not a question of Michelin or not Michelin , I've no nationalistic pride involved.
F1 is nothing but a boring and chitty competition.

I would better look 10 hours of NASCAR than 1 hour of this comedie.

When was for the last time F1 interresting ? in the 80 it died in the 90.

Senna, Prost ,Berger , Mansell, Patrese Boutsen ,Piquet, Lauda made the myth.

Schumi is nothing compared to any of those guy.
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2005, 04:37:11 AM »
Worst thing about beeing on holiday, is that i missed this years edition of the Le Mans 24hour race. Dunno why I love it, its not good "racing" really, but its still cool
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2005, 05:29:07 AM »
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Schumi is nothing compared to any of those guy.


umh, what have this statement to do with yesterdays race?

but while we at it, no other of your so called guys have won
7 world champion titles.

...your turn ;)
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2005, 05:58:10 AM »
What some of you don't realize is the obligation of those not affected with bad tires still had to race. They can't help it if the others chose a different tire. 20/20 is fine, but think of all those would be pissed off sponsors if those cars that were capable decided not to race. Without sponsorship dollars, there'd be no race. Welcome to the modern era of racing with the best, most expensive technology.
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2005, 06:11:43 AM »
good point Saburo..

Will those who had payed for a ticket now get a refund, and would they get one if no cars raced?. Prolly just as important... we are talking huge sums of money for F1 and the organisers/track.
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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2005, 06:35:17 AM »
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Originally posted by straffo
It's not what I'm trying to say.

I say to keep the competition and having a real victory Ferrari should have either accepted the modification or refuse to compete.

They prefered the easy way.
And this is a shame (for me at least).


Ferrari have been behind the ball all year...they show up ready and competitive, and suddenly they have to accept a compromise?

I'm sure if Ferrari showed up with bad bridgestones...all the michelin runners would've vetoed the race...right?

But somehow it's FIA....and therefore Ferrari's fault they showed up ready to race?

I feel bad for the US fans, and F1 could be stuffed for a long time over there, but this is ALL michelins fault they weren't on the ball!!!

Williams, BAR Honda, Toyota, McLaren, RBR, Renault, Sauber would all have raced if Ferrari was at the disadvantage..

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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2005, 06:37:46 AM »
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umh, what have this statement to do with yesterdays race?

but while we at it, no other of your so called guys have won
7 world champion titles.

...your turn ;)


If you want to post stupidity I can too :)

Schumi never won a race with Senna or Prost.
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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2005, 06:48:17 AM »
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Ferrari have been behind the ball all year...they show up ready and competitive, and suddenly they have to accept a compromise?

I'm sure if Ferrari showed up with bad bridgestones...all the michelin runners would've vetoed the race...right?

But somehow it's FIA....and therefore Ferrari's fault they showed up ready to race?

I feel bad for the US fans, and F1 could be stuffed for a long time over there, but this is ALL michelins fault they weren't on the ball!!!

Williams, BAR Honda, Toyota, McLaren, RBR, Renault, Sauber would all have raced if Ferrari was at the disadvantage..

 Tronsky


The questions are :

Why the Michelin runner didn't porked the race when they had the possibility

Why Ferrari participated in this comedie.

The answer is easy to find.

Had the Michelin user refused to put their car on the track there won't have been any race
They choose to make the formation lap and Ferrari choose to have a easy victory.
I had never a lot of respect for Ferrari now the last 1% is gone.
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2005, 06:51:25 AM »
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If you want to post stupidity I can too :)

Schumi never won a race with Senna or Prost.


Brazil, 1994

1. Schumacher
DNF. Senna

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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2005, 07:02:00 AM »
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The questions are :

Why the Michelin runner didn't porked the race when they had the possibility

Why Ferrari participated in this comedie.

The answer is easy to find.

Had the Michelin user refused to put their car on the track there won't have been any race
They choose to make the formation lap and Ferrari choose to have a easy victory.
I had never a lot of respect for Ferrari now the last 1% is gone.


C'mon Straffo..your smarter than that...your saying in any other competition where you'd prepared and were ready to compete, whereas your main competition weren't, and wanted to change the circumstances so they would be competitive...you'd just go along with it?

Especially when your spending a couple of hundred million dollars a year to be competitive?

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