Author Topic: Gay Marriage (Read 11757 times)

Black Sheep · « **Reply #450 on:** July 07, 2005, 12:20:11 PM »

Here we go round in circles...

Martlet · « **Reply #451 on:** July 07, 2005, 12:56:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
In other words, "judicial activism" is a state problem.

Depends on the circumstances. In this case it was. The SC didn't strike down a law because it was unConstitutional, they changed a sitting law to suit the pre-established agenda of the sitting CJ.

Even if you support the same cause, doesn't that bother you?

slimm50 · « **Reply #452 on:** July 07, 2005, 01:09:39 PM »

The God I worship teaches to love the sinner, hate the sin. That being said, my opposition the legal recognition of same-sex marriages that doesn't mean that I hate homosexuals. Many, many Christians feel this way.

That's enough outta me for now. I'll be happy to elaborate on my point privately for any who are actually interested.

Donzo · « **Reply #453 on:** July 09, 2005, 08:10:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Silat
If you love your brother it is none of my business. Get it?

Yes, I get your point. The problem is that if this is made "law", it will not be long before groups such as the ACLU petition the courts to force schools to teach the homosexual lifestlye in sex education classes (disguised of course as "tolerance"). Since my taxes go toward these schools, I have a big problem with cramming this choice that some have made down childrens throats.
I don't care what people do..."it's none of my business" to quote you, as long as it does not affect me and society as a whole. When it crosses the line and is made a "law", and is imposed on all of society, it becomes some of my business.

Martlet · « **Reply #454 on:** July 09, 2005, 08:21:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Donzo
Yes, I get your point. The problem is that if this is made "law", it will not be long before groups such as the ACLU petition the courts to force schools to teach the homosexual lifestlye in sex education classes (disguised of course as "tolerance"). Since my taxes go toward these schools, I have a big problem with cramming this choice that some have made down childrens throats.
I don't care what people do..."it's none of my business" to quote you, as long as it does not affect me and society as a whole. When it crosses the line and is made a "law", and is imposed on all of society, it becomes some of my business.

It's already being done here in Massachusetts. Pamphlets were made available to middle schoolers describing the safest way to enjoy "fisting" and where to go in Boston to pick up guys.

My tax dollars pay for that.

At least until the Amendment goes up for a vote.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #455 on:** July 09, 2005, 08:50:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Donzo
Yes, I get your point. The problem is that if this is made "law", it will not be long before groups such as the ACLU petition the courts to force schools to teach the homosexual lifestlye in sex education classes (disguised of course as "tolerance"). Since my taxes go toward these schools, I have a big problem with cramming this choice that some have made down childrens throats.
I don't care what people do..."it's none of my business" to quote you, as long as it does not affect me and society as a whole. When it crosses the line and is made a "law", and is imposed on all of society, it becomes some of my business.

Applause!
What he said.

TexMurphy · « **Reply #456 on:** July 09, 2005, 09:20:08 AM »

When it comes to schools...

Schools should teach about human differencess... one of the single biggest human characteristics is that we are all individually different. Its not just looks, religion and sexuallity its in each and every single aspect of every thing we do. There is no human that is identical to another and that is what makes us the individuals we are.

Schools should teach this and teach to respect this. Through understanding differences of individuals and how different cultures affect these differences so much conflict can be avoided.

Ultimatly we all should respect our differences... that would really rock.. but just understanding them would do so much good for all the societies in the world and for the world it self...

So should schools teach about homosexuality? Definatly. But not from the perspective "how men shag and where to pick em up" but from the perspective of understanding sexual differences between people. Just like differences in religions, cultures, human thinking, ect ect ect...

Tex

Silat · « **Reply #457 on:** July 12, 2005, 01:44:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Donzo
Yes, I get your point. The problem is that if this is made "law", it will not be long before groups such as the ACLU petition the courts to force schools to teach the homosexual lifestlye in sex education classes (disguised of course as "tolerance"). Since my taxes go toward these schools, I have a big problem with cramming this choice that some have made down childrens throats.
I don't care what people do..."it's none of my business" to quote you, as long as it does not affect me and society as a whole. When it crosses the line and is made a "law", and is imposed on all of society, it becomes some of my business.

Well let us just take away the churches tax exempt status. Then you and they can continue your fight to change law to keep persecuting one group.

Silat · « **Reply #458 on:** July 12, 2005, 01:48:39 PM »

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Originally posted by slimm50
The God I worship teaches to love the sinner, hate the sin.

Ive never meet anyone who actually lived up to that standard.
Doesnt your god tell you not to judge? To love all men? To be tolerant?
And the phrase "Hate the sin" seems off to me.
God teaches Hate?

Martlet · « **Reply #459 on:** July 12, 2005, 01:57:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Silat
Ive never meet anyone who actually lived up to that standard.
Doesnt your god tell you not to judge? To love all men? To be tolerant?
And the phrase "Hate the sin" seems off to me.
God teaches Hate?

He doesn't have to judge. God tells him what is or isn't a sin.

Gunthr · « **Reply #460 on:** July 12, 2005, 02:07:42 PM »

I kind of think gays should be able to marry. However, we have to keep a close eye on militant gays who have a political agenda and attempt to infiltrate our school systems to gain access to children in order to further gay political goals. There is a big difference between informing kids about human sexuality at an appropriate age, and exposing them to homosexual propaganda. See below

http://www.stevekaneshow.com/glsen.htm

Manedew · « **Reply #461 on:** July 12, 2005, 04:36:19 PM »

Maybe you should think twice about have enforced public schooling?

Just a thought

Instead you go after teaching? Why shouldn't children get an education about such things? Maybe they won't be so damn confused if they ARE gay, lesbiean, trassexual , whatever?

(sarcasim)
I never saw anyone at my high school get crap for seeming a little 'light in the loafers'

No, gay's aren't opressed ..... they don't get beat up, then taken to court if they don't goto school

Ya that's a good enviorment to raise a stable induvidual. (/sarcasim dripping)

saw such BS in my highschool..... what exactly are YOU argureing for?

the master race? with no gays? no blacks too?

denying something YOU don't like won't make it go away..... maybe you should argue that YOUR money can be speant on private school vouchers. SO then YOU have some choice.

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One last point.....on the overall point........

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-07-05-church-gay-marriage_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

Under freedom of religion... how can you even consider outlawing it?

Martlet · « **Reply #462 on:** July 12, 2005, 04:41:27 PM »

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Rules #4 and 5.

Manedew · « **Reply #463 on:** July 12, 2005, 04:49:50 PM »

is that supposed to be an agrument Martlet???

is all you can do is throw hate? and troll?

Chairboy · « **Reply #464 on:** July 12, 2005, 04:59:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
I'm sorry you were picked on in high school. Maybe the teachers should teach self-defense instead of homosexuality?

What kind of argument is that? I'd be a lot more impressed with an argument based on merits instead of ad hominems.

On the other hand, if you are representative of the opposing view side, then I... I guess the discussion has really wrapped up, eh? I've had easy wins, but this was unexpectedly so.